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Soup throwing again

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Namsnanny Wed 29-Mar-23 14:03:21

Over Posie Parker (as was. Kelly forgot the rest of her name)
On her NZ tour.

I dont do links, but it's probably easy to find.

The person who threw it followed up with a quick speech, saying something like she wished it was blood, or next time it should be blood. I couldnt really hear clearly.

Why such vitriol and violence?

(If there is another thread about this, apologies.)

Mollygo Sat 01-Apr-23 14:53:14

Received this tweet.

Galaxy Sat 01-Apr-23 15:00:40

Dont want to derail but I really hope farnorth is ok. She is usually on these threads and is so helpful in terms of statistics.

Bridie22 Sat 01-Apr-23 15:56:03

Volver3... I am 100% thankful that those 7000 children will not be treated at the Tavistock clinic, if by its closure it saves one child from being unnecessarily mutilated for life, then I'm thankful and hope genuine gender dysphoric people are provided with the care and age appropriate treatment they need.
Also your remark " I don't think it is always apparent to posters how their posts come across" can definitely apply to yourself also.

Mollygo Sat 01-Apr-23 16:08:48

V3 it seems to be you who was angry about the maths, but however you want to put it. If 1 in 2000, or 7000 were saved from harm by the halting of procedures that were and have since been seen to cause irreparable damage, I’m glad.
You could always Google what care is being put into place now.
Bridie22 your response to V3, that I’ve added below is really accurate, but unlikely to make any difference.
*Also your (V3’s) remark " I don't think it is always apparent to posters how their posts come across" can definitely apply to yourself (V3) also.
Thank you.

volver3 Sat 01-Apr-23 16:12:37

Thank you both for the analysis of my character.

I'll be paying it no heed though.

Callistemon21 Sat 01-Apr-23 16:30:38

Also your remark " I don't think it is always apparent to posters how their posts come across"

I just assumed this was a generalisation and that by saying posters volver was including herself.

Mollygo Sat 01-Apr-23 17:34:10

volver3

Thank you both for the analysis of my character.

I'll be paying it no heed though.

No problem-no analysis, unless your post was an an analysis of my character instead of just a snippy comment.

I'll be paying it no heed though.

Glorianny Sat 01-Apr-23 20:02:29

Mollygo

Received this tweet.

Could you explain where this is from Mollygo NHS policy does not recommend surgery for under 18s. I suppose there may be some surgeons willing to do this privately. But it certainly isn't usual in most countries.
fra.europa.eu/en/publication/2017/mapping-minimum-age-requirements-concerning-rights-child-eu/access-sex-reassignment-surgery#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20Kingdom%20the,

Mollygo Sat 01-Apr-23 20:49:29

Exactly what I said. I received a notice that someone had posted this on Twitter.

Glorianny Sat 01-Apr-23 21:30:20

So we have no idea where this child lived or was treated. I am sure that just as with many other body changing operations there are private surgeons who will do anything in exchange for large sums of money.
It would be illegal in this and many countries.

MerylStreep Sat 01-Apr-23 21:41:10

Callistemon21

^Also your remark " I don't think it is always apparent to posters how their posts come across"^

I just assumed this was a generalisation and that by saying posters volver was including herself.

If this thread was on MN I would be a lot clearer
Unfortunately this is GN where plain talking is against the rules.

Namsnanny Sun 02-Apr-23 01:42:24

Thank you for asking for video footage of Eli after the tomato juice (she says she used soup and juice, for those who are keen for clarity) assault.
You should be able to find it for yourself Glorianny I'm told it's on twitter.
I'm not on twitter, but I have seen it on anothers twitter account.
Also, an edited version cutting the reference to 'blood' with her stood beside the podium is out there.
Presumably the word blood was dropped as it has connotations with violence?
Dont know.

But I can see she isn't the least bit dishevelled. Which I would have thought she would be if she was man handled, in the same clothes with same handbag dangling elegantly on her shoulder.

She seems quite happy to me.

Anyway, make your own mind up.

volver3 Sun 02-Apr-23 09:46:32

Oh come on now.

I've seen this video but incidentally I can't find it again and you can't see it, but it proves EVERYTHING I've said so obviously I'm right.

There's no compulsion to prove anything on GN, its a chat site. But if you believe in the comments about blood and soup, and you want us to believe it too, well need some proof.

Here she is being manhandled off the podium by security guards, this is called video evidence.

Second video down, about 20s in.

www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/posie-parker-juice-thower-eli-rubashkyn-en-route-for-new-york-after-arrest-claim/OBCY2CCNPJAULNQOHSQVCXX6Y4/

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:01:07

There's no compulsion to prove anything on GN, its a chat site.

Well said, volver!
This should be emblazoned in bold capitals at the top of the site.

I'm sure all those posters who are asked for evidence or facts to prove what they say in a chatty post will be relieved to hear that.

It's not a court of law, it is a chat forum.

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:03:41

Here she is being manhandled off the podium by security guards, this is called video evidence

🤔 should we be saying personhandled now?

volver3 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:06:28

But if you want to have a conversation where anybody believes the slightest thing you say, you can't rely on videos that nobody else can see.

This is not who made the best rock cakes at the village fete, this is important for politics in this country.

A thread being in Chat doesn't mean it can just be fantasy, sorry. Chat isn't a get out of jail free card for made up stuff.

LiverLover Sun 02-Apr-23 10:09:06

A thread being in Chat doesn't mean it can just be fantasy, sorry. Chat isn't a get out of jail free card for made up stuff.

You mean like saying someone was arrested when they weren't?

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:11:58

What did you expect the security guards to do? They could have had a knife or acid.
They were resisting being removed from the podium so how were the security meant to remove them?

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:17:48

LiverLover

^A thread being in Chat doesn't mean it can just be fantasy, sorry. Chat isn't a get out of jail free card for made up stuff.^

You mean like saying someone was arrested when they weren't?

👍

volver3 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:20:02

Callistemon21

What did you expect the security guards to do? They could have had a knife or acid.
They were resisting being removed from the podium so how were the security meant to remove them?

Drag her off, what else?

But then I don't, expect somebody who was on the other side of the world at the time to make posts suggesting she wasn't dragged off. confused

volver3 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:24:43

LiverLover

^A thread being in Chat doesn't mean it can just be fantasy, sorry. Chat isn't a get out of jail free card for made up stuff.^

You mean like saying someone was arrested when they weren't?

Well in those circumstances I'd expect the person who made the mistake to admit it instead of wittering on and digging themselves an even bigger hole.

volver3 Thu 30-Mar-23 09:24:57
Yeah I was wrong about the arrest. Mea culpa.

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:27:45

But then I don't, expect somebody who was on the other side of the world at the time to make posts suggesting she wasn't dragged off.

If they'd gone quietly they wouldn't have been "dragged"

That wouldn't have been so dramatic, though, and there's be no reason to complain about the security guards.
🙂

volver3 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:35:21

Do you play football Callistemon? Becuase you should think abut it.

You're really good at moving the goalposts.

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:39:05

They are firmly in place.

volver3 Sun 02-Apr-23 10:50:50

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