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Namsnanny Wed 29-Mar-23 14:03:21

Over Posie Parker (as was. Kelly forgot the rest of her name)
On her NZ tour.

I dont do links, but it's probably easy to find.

The person who threw it followed up with a quick speech, saying something like she wished it was blood, or next time it should be blood. I couldnt really hear clearly.

Why such vitriol and violence?

(If there is another thread about this, apologies.)

Namsnanny Wed 29-Mar-23 21:04:07

Comply?
The only crimes committed at that meeting were committed by trans activist.

Unless you know better?

MerylStreep Wed 29-Mar-23 21:22:29

volver3

Okey doke. I'll mention that to my LGBTQI friends in Adelaide, they'll be delighted to comply.

I didn’t realise GN had such power over the LBGTQI community in Adelaide.
It’s quite exciting, isn’t it. 😊

JaneJudge Wed 29-Mar-23 21:40:42

I thought she was a gender critical feminist?

JaneJudge Wed 29-Mar-23 21:41:08

Posie Parker that is

Doodledog Wed 29-Mar-23 21:57:50

There's a Mumsnet thread about it here, if anyone is still unclear about the ^dramatis personae^ and the order of events

Rosie Parker does appear to have links with the Far Right, which is, IMO A Bad Thing, but it doesn't mean that everything she says is ok, or that it is remotely acceptable to use violence to break up a feminist rally.

(oh, and if it matters, I conducted a quick survey of my globally situated crowd of LGBTQI+++++++++ chums, and they all agree. so I win)

Doodledog Wed 29-Mar-23 21:58:48

That should have read to say that it doesn't mean that everything she says is nonsense/not ok. Obviously.

Namsnanny Wed 29-Mar-23 22:07:26

I wonder what Far Right means in this case Doodledog?

It's a phrase that's been so over used, what used to be considered center right, is far now.

Doodledog Wed 29-Mar-23 22:10:06

Good point. In this case I don't think it matters, to be honest. Just because she has some dodgy friends doesn't mean that she doesn't talk sense.

I know people who think men can become women by saying magic words. I think that is b*llocks, but that doesn't mean I don't value their opinion about fashion, or knitting.

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 22:20:58

Just because her views are the same as those of the Nazis and thugs, that doesn't make her wrong.🤔

Give me strength.

MerylStreep Wed 29-Mar-23 22:30:25

Volver
Remind us, who were the thugs at that gathering.

Callistemon21 Wed 29-Mar-23 22:30:30

I said PP was a Nazi, and as evidence posted pictures of actual Nazis at her rallies, and a picture of her with Pauline Hansen

How do you recognise actual Nazis from a picture?

Do they have a swastika tattooed on their forehead? Or wear a Nazi uniform?

Just curious 🙂

MerylStreep Wed 29-Mar-23 22:38:23

Callistemon
Could we see their boots. That’s always a giveaway.
Or, maybe they were in mufti for that gathering just incase some took offence 🤔

Callistemon21 Wed 29-Mar-23 22:46:37

They look like the police to me 🤔

I know Australian police can be a bit, well, what can I say? Tough? Over-zealous sometimes? But I wouldn't call them Nazis.

Rosie51 Wed 29-Mar-23 22:52:21

volver3

Why should they be ashamed of themselves?

The arrested the juice-pourer and she's going to court.

How much do you actually know about what happened and how much are you making up?

The arrested the juice-pourer and she's going to court.

Can you post the link to this .....I can't find anything that says Eliana Rubashkyn has been arrested? I have seen they have deleted loads of tweets, especially the ones from where they've fled to Australia.

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 22:52:36

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Callistemon21 Wed 29-Mar-23 22:59:43

Actually, I have no clue what is going on apart from the fact that there are some people in a picture, police are standing around, someone threw some soup or it could have been juice and it could be in Australia in Melbourne or Adelaide or then again it could be New Zealand

I arrive home after a lovely evening, look on GN and think I've fallen down a rabbit hole.

Callistemon21 Wed 29-Mar-23 23:02:19

volver3

God, you're all so funny. Nearly did myself an injury laughing.

You can deflect and make jokes as much as you like.

The Nazis? They were the ones calling themselves Nazis. What a bunch of apologists you lot are.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose!!

Doodledog Wed 29-Mar-23 23:07:33

volver3

God, you're all so funny. Nearly did myself an injury laughing.

You can deflect and make jokes as much as you like.

The Nazis? They were the ones calling themselves Nazis. What a bunch of apologists you lot are.

Who has apologised for Nazis?

Agreeing with PP on this subject is not the same thing at all, and however much you sneer, invoke your Australian friends and laugh at us, you won't change that.

volver3 Wed 29-Mar-23 23:20:37

I wasn't laughing but now I am, because you don't know what "apologist" means. smile

Callistemon21 Wed 29-Mar-23 23:23:50

Countdown.

Mollygo Wed 29-Mar-23 23:29:43

Version 3
Always convenient to have ‘friends’ of whatever religion, persuasion, and in whatever country you want to comment on.
Actually, some posters would disagree with you if you suddenly agreed with them.
It’s fun to watch and guess how long it will take.

*So who were the thugs at that gathering?*(And for those who don’t understand thug or want to add their own definition of the word to suit their purpose, by thugs, I mean those perpetrating the violence.

Doodledog Wed 29-Mar-23 23:34:55

I really can't be arsed. It's like watching one of those drunks arguing with the bin in a bus station.

PP was attacked by TRAs at a feminist rally in NZ (ironically entitled Let Women Speak), when her security team were unable to attend (possibly threatened, but I can't be sure about that). The TRAs were rabid, and there is no doubt that she would have been seriously hurt if they had got to her. A woman in the crowd was knocked to the ground in the melee, and the TRAs got away with it. This follows women being attacked for going to see a film (in the UK) and the attackers getting away with it. I know where I can see Nazis, but I know better than to invoke Godwin's Law.

I really have no time for anyone who thinks that this is acceptable, whether they agree with her views or not. FWIW, I disagree with a lot of what she says, particularly about 'traditional' roles for women, but that is not the point.

What have we come to when women, on a discussion group for older women are defending women being attacked and sneering at those who find it beyond disturbing. If this was real life I wouldn't engage with this level of unpleasantness, and I'm not doing it on here. It's just not worth the candle.

Doodledog Wed 29-Mar-23 23:35:35

Molly, the thugs were TRAs. Predictably.

Rosie51 Wed 29-Mar-23 23:36:20

Volver any chance of that link to Eliana Rubashkyn's arrest?I've googled and nothing comes up for me. Was it in Australia or NZ?

Callistemon21 Wed 29-Mar-23 23:40:09

I do wonder if much of it is argument for argument's sake, for some reason I cannot fathom.
Boredom?

Mollygo I knew someone who could argue the toss until you agreed with her and then she'd about turn and argue the opposite 😁