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'Queen Camilla'?

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Aveline Wed 05-Apr-23 19:51:50

Hmmmm. I gather she's to be called Queen Camilla despite the late Queen stating that she should be Queen Consort. Albert was only the Prince Consort. Poor old Prince Philip wasnt even that. What's so special about Camilla? I was warming to her but I'm not so sure now. They're taking a risk with the public support.

eazybee Mon 08-May-23 16:24:11

David Starkey referred to her as the mother- in -law from hell.

HeavenLeigh Mon 08-May-23 16:31:15

Yep agree NiceGranny. Made my stomach churn.

eazybee Mon 08-May-23 17:13:49

I was referring to Margaret Beaufort, mother -in-law to Henry V11's wife Elizabeth.

Callistemon21 Mon 08-May-23 18:32:18

eazybee

I was referring to Margaret Beaufort, mother -in-law to Henry V11's wife Elizabeth.

Se can't have had an easy life - had she been born a boy she'd have fared much better.

Callistemon21 Mon 08-May-23 18:32:30

She ......

Franbern Mon 08-May-23 19:08:42

Grandma70s

The other queens-by-marriage, Alexandra, Mary, and the Queen Mother, were all aristocrats in their own right, Camilla isn’t. Just a point. Of course, Princess Catherine isn’t either, but she seems more queen-like than Camilla to me.

Camilla has a much of aristocratic (whatever that means), background as most of the others who carry titles, including Diane. Both those two woman are direct descendants of Charles 11 through his very many illegitimate children. Indeed, it appears as if the majority of those who carry these silly titles trace those titles back to that source.

For some centuries it has been normal for the wife of the current King to be known as Queen. When it is female Queen (in their own right) their husband cannot be called King, as part of all these archaic rules state that a King is of higher rank than a Queen.

All so very silly, Lord this and Lady that.......Lots of cosplay on Saturday.

eazybee Mon 08-May-23 19:39:39

If the husband of a Queen in her own right was made a King, he would automatically become the ruler of that country, which was why Elizabeth I never married, everyone was worried stiff about Philip of Spain marrying Mary Tudor, although he was already King of Spain, and there was great unease about Maryandwilliamtheremarkabledutchorange after they ascended the throne together following James II's departure.