Headline today ‘Losing weight may hasten death’

Thank you @MiniMoon that one does say I’m in a healthy range. I think I’ll skip trying to be a size 12 and be a comfy size 14, that means about half a stone off instead of a stone.

I am comfortably within the approved BMI for a person of my height. Unfortunately when they measured how much fat I had on my body I was classfied as obese, just, and told that I actually needed to weigh a stone less than I do.

This did not surprise me, I was told some years ago, before BMI that although within the right weight group for my height and build, I had too much fat on my body and needed to lose, then, about 10 lbs.

All these classifications and rules, none can cater for everyone, so whether bird boned, as I seem to be or a muscly rugby player, for some of us the rules can lead us to beleive that we are healthier or less healthy than we actually are.

I've just listened to the Interview by some Doctor with Ferrari- and she is talking absolute nonsense.

These health stories come and go. One week X is good for you, another week X is bad for you. Try not to get too hung up on them. The stories are often based on one specific study and will probably be contradicted by another study in due course.

Good grief!! Fat people die ….thin people die …. guess what , we all die!! Wh knew?!🤔

Thank you MiniMoon. My results tell me I’m at my ideal weight and don’t need to lose the stone I’ve gained since taking prescribed steroids.

I lost 15 kilos over three months which sent the practice nurse into panic mode, she assumed I must have some dreadful disease and sent me for lots of tests. My husband had just died and I was grieving.
I have just done the BMI test and it puts me in the middle of the chart where I am considered the correct weight for my height and age.

My weight is officially fine for my height, but I know that I have rather too much fat on me. I’m not going to give up eating things I enjoy, though, even if they are fattening. I’m 83 and intend to enjoy what life I have left, and that includes eating nice food. Nobody ever reaches their deathbed wishing they hadn’t eaten so many sweet things. At least, I don’t think so.

Daily Mail again!
The little i paper has a story today about sudden weight loss in patients with late stage cancer. Sobering.

Passthechocolates (great name considering the topic). I would think it might be pointing to those who lose large amounts of weight in a very short time. In other words, 'extreme dieting'. It's always been said that the healthiest way is to aim for no more than 2lbs per week. You sometimes see adverts saying "I took these tablets and lot 15lbs in one week". You don't know what it's doing to your system.

Exercising is key to maintaining muscle. I would think dieting and exercise go hand in hand, and if done sensibly will give a good outcome.

Meant to add, I use weights also.

FannyCornforth

Well, my longevity is now guaranteed

And mine 😂😂😂😂😂

Seriously my BMI is far too high, I’ve lost a stone and a half since October and I feel so much better Yes the heart is a muscle but muscle loss can be combatted by use of protein and exercise, if, like me, you’re way overweight weight loss can only benefit your body and mind provided it’s done sensibly and healthily

Just did this via your link minimoon
Very reassuring…🤗

In late heart failure, weight just plummets. unintentionally. Also in established cancer ~& uncontrolled diabetes. But I don't recall seeing that modest planned weight loss affects the heart at any age. Especially if it's a combination of intentional weight loss & increased activity & healthy eating. That's still promoted by the NHS for all age groups. Without seeing where they got these stats from (is unintentional weight loss included?) there's not a lot I can learn from this.

MiniMoon

*passthechocolates*, have a look at the smart BMI calculator. There is a special category for seniors. It explains how it's calculations differ from the regular BMI scale.
If its any help, my wise Granny used to say that when a woman reaches a certain age, she needs a bit of weight about her.
Here is a link to the smart BMI site.

I’m bang in the middle or Low 😮. There I have been beating myself up for being overweight.

I shall go to bed with a song in my heart😄🙂.

Oh glory.

Here it is explained with less schlock: edition.cnn.com/2019/10/17/health/weight-gain-loss-premature-death/index.html

Sounds a bit bonkers but every time I visit the loo I do 10 sit/stands and I stand on one leg when I clean my teeth switching leg half way through.
Not bonkers at all Foxie48! I sometimes remember to do sit/stands but such a good idea to do it in the loo! And standing on one leg is supposed to be brilliant for your balance; mine has got worse over the years even though I'm a dancer! Thanks for the tip

Writing something about being overweight seems to be a popular choice if they can’t think of anything else!

I’ve been sent on a load of groups and courses about healthy eating due to pre-diabetes, the aim now seems to be small changes to behaviour which result in weight loss over a long time. It’s very hard to believe this will make any difference when nothing long-term has worked before. So they might as well write articles saying losing weight will kill me, it’s not going to affect me anyway! FWIW, I’m pretty sure they must mean rapid, intentional weight loss is bad for you - what used to be called crash dieting.

Its a very bad article. it doesn't give relevant information about what a healthy BMI should be as well as not giving the "Causes of weight loss" information.

What about the dangers of obesity, which are many!

wiki

"Obesity significantly increases your risk of developing life-threatening conditions, such as heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes and some forms of cancer."

MiniMoon

*passthechocolates*, have a look at the smart BMI calculator. There is a special category for seniors. It explains how it's calculations differ from the regular BMI scale.
If its any help, my wise Granny used to say that when a woman reaches a certain age, she needs a bit of weight about her.
Here is a link to the smart BMI site.

I always liked your Granny 😁

Whitewavemark2

MiniMoon

passthechocolates, have a look at the smart BMI calculator. There is a special category for seniors. It explains how it's calculations differ from the regular BMI scale.
If its any help, my wise Granny used to say that when a woman reaches a certain age, she needs a bit of weight about her.
Here is a link to the smart BMI site.

I’m bang in the middle or Low 😮. There I have been beating myself up for being overweight.

I shall go to bed with a song in my heart😄🙂.

Oh glory.

You could also go to bed with a plate of buttered toast Whitewavemark2 😃

I'm also in the middle of low so will koko.

Apparently the study was somewhat misreported as the study was about ‘involuntary’ loss of weight, not weight lost through diets. Since sudden, unexpected weight loss usually happens due to an underlying cause such as cancer then the weight loss is a symptom not the cause of death in the sufferers.

Diet away, ladies, staying slim, healthy and active is the only way to stave off the Bad Stuff.

Poorly worded “May indicate ….” rather than “hastening” which implies cause and effect.
Yes, many old people lose weight in their latter years, but it can be for a variety of reasons - poorly fitting teeth, lack of appetite, reduced physical capacity for standing and cooking, isolation or indeed poor health.
Definitely not necessarily a case though of post hoc ergo propter hoc