The Daily Mail

£99 per year- can think of better things to do with 100 quid!

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

MayBee70

Callistemon21

We all know about subliminal messaging MayBee70.
We weren't born yesterday.

Then why was I accused of implying that someone lacked intelligence by reading it?

Not sure- but one would assume that if someone chooses to read it regularly, it is because they support the stance that it takes on many things- and on foreigners and EU in particular? No?

Perhaps yes.

Which is different from being neutral and being influenced by subliminal messaging/advertising.

Perhaps a combination- a tendency to have those beliefs and opinions, so not neutral, and then for the DM to confirm, compound and multiply.

How much does a subscription to DM cost per month? Would you pay it if you didn't actually support what they peddle (and peddle they do!).

Who - me?

fancythat

I presume we are talking the same newspaper, The Guardian, the national one?

Yes

Maybe we should put all the typical GNers into a room with all the typical DM readers. What an uneducated, miserable and boring bunch of people that would be! 😅 (in case you’re wondering that’s a joke, actually appalled at the judgemental comments flying around at the moment)

I used to buy the Mail, I changed to The Times in 2003 when my son was in Iraq because I trusted their reporting. However I still bought the Saturday Mail, because it was a good magazine and useful for TV listings, until Covid and now I read everything I can online.

I do like to see different views on events, I pay for The Times, The Telegraph and The Spectator, that will have to come down to one subscription when I finally leave work. I also read The Mail online and The Guardian online but I wouldn't pay for either. I've even been known to read the Mirror online but only for the soaps news, honestly.

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

Callistemon21

Fleurpepper

MayBee70

Callistemon21

We all know about subliminal messaging MayBee70.
We weren't born yesterday.

Then why was I accused of implying that someone lacked intelligence by reading it?

Not sure- but one would assume that if someone chooses to read it regularly, it is because they support the stance that it takes on many things- and on foreigners and EU in particular? No?

Perhaps yes.

Which is different from being neutral and being influenced by subliminal messaging/advertising.

Perhaps a combination- a tendency to have those beliefs and opinions, so not neutral, and then for the DM to confirm, compound and multiply.

How much does a subscription to DM cost per month? Would you pay it if you didn't actually support what they peddle (and peddle they do!).

Who - me?

Regular long-term DM readers. Are you?

fancy that, the Guardian is not behind a paywall. It often nudges me by telling me how many articles I’ve read and would I like to donate or subscribe. I occasionally donate. I enjoy the Saturday Guardian and/or the Sunday Observer. Great recipes and time to read interesting articles .
The Telegraph keeps offering me a year on line very cheaply but I wouldn’t get value even at that price as I wouldn’t read in full.
The DM is the most frequently bought or read on line so gets its cash from advertising. As I posted earlier, it seems guided by its readers views, ideology and belief systems, rather than its ability to mesmerise half the population. That’s a worry

X posted their Fleurpepper. It seems it prints what the majority of its readers want to hear.

Iam64

fancy that, the Guardian is not behind a paywall. It often nudges me by telling me how many articles I’ve read and would I like to donate or subscribe. I occasionally donate. I enjoy the Saturday Guardian and/or the Sunday Observer. Great recipes and time to read interesting articles .
The Telegraph keeps offering me a year on line very cheaply but I wouldn’t get value even at that price as I wouldn’t read in full.
The DM is the most frequently bought or read on line so gets its cash from advertising. As I posted earlier, it seems guided by its readers views, ideology and belief systems, rather than its ability to mesmerise half the population. That’s a worry

Thanks.

In which case I will try yet again.
Once I have read my 3 articles this month, [dont think I have read any yet]or whatever the number is, if/when it pipes up with whatever it says to me, I will come back on here. Maybe I can get sorted. Hope so.

I would like to read all newspapers online. And have a full choice of newspaper reading material.

Try using the website instead of the app, if you are on the app just now. The app is metered, the website isn't.

www.theguardian.com/help/insideguardian/2023/mar/22/an-update-on-reader-support-via-the-app

I am going on the website on a desk top computer.

I read The Times, anyone else here who does. In my opinion best of a bad bunch. A friend reads DM and believes every word, sometimes I argue but little point. How it gets away with such rubbish is amazing. Worrying that people just accept what the paper says. I read a lot on line too, sad soul that I am. Still find BBC news on line the most interesting.

Download an app called PressReader and you can read them all on there for free!

LadyGaGa
After being on GN for going on 12 yrs it’s water off a ducks back 😂

It also includes newspapers for other countries. You can be subliminally influenced as much as you desire. 😂

There is absolutely no restriction on the number of Guardian articles one can read. It just comes up with its little plea for a donation. Which I find irritating because I have a paper copy delivered daily but the website isn't to know that.

I've read the Guardian for 50 years (gosh..). Not so much for the news, though it's reported in far more depth than TV or radio news, but for the opinion and analysis pieces. I don't always agree with it (and I never read Owen Jones..) but it generally suits my biases. Believe it or not, it also has TV and radio schedules and the Saturday magazine covers the usual magaziney stuff. I get the Observer on Sunday. I used to take the Sunday Times before Andrew Neil took over as editor and it turned really right wing.

I read the occasional DM article if pointed at it, but I wouldn't read it from choice.

I never read DM articles because I simply can’t trust the rotten journalism. I can get all the information I need from lots of sources that I can trust, so certainly don’t need the DM for information. Just like I would never watch the new news and talk television, they are cringingly awful.

I see Fox News is is deep do do😄

Whitewave, I don’t trust the DM. I find it’s editorials and beliefs abhorrent

It’s uncomfortable to find myself more in tune with its support for jKRowling than I am with Owen Jones in the Guardian

I really dislike Owen Jones.

PS IMO Sarah Vine writes some excellent articles for the DM 👍

Out and proud DM reader here and I care not a jot what anyone thinks!!…😜

I used to read Owen Jones as I think it's important to read views different to your own, not really about the gender issue but more a view from the left of the labour party. However I realised it was similar to reading Jeremy Clarkson, just 'of the left', there are much more intelligent, coherent viewpoints from that section of labour.

I dislike Sarah Vine as much as Owen Jones.
But I suspect her memoirs will be interesting, I bet she knows a lot about the shinanegens in the government this past twelve years. There’s a lot to emerge about Gove

Well said " Volver3"!

No need to buy any newspapers or magazines, you can get them all free online by using pressreader app, free from your local council library, just put in your library card number, if you don’t have one you can get one online via your councils app, go to library’s.