To me......being called 'woke' is a compliment

Snowflake" is a derogatory slang term for a person, implying that they have an inflated sense of uniqueness, an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or are overly emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions.

I don't see that use of 'snowflake' as being left/right. It does describe a particular type of person (ditto 'unicorn'), but as always, when these things catch on they start to lose meaning, as they are applied to swathes of people and are used very lazily.

VioletSky

callistemon

It's never really fit the left, we don't melt under the rights hot air

I didn't know that the term snowflake was meant to apply to people on the left.

🤔

You know what happens when a lot of snowflakes get together?

An avalanche.

Here we come, take cover. 😉

Neither did I Callistemon. I thought it was supposed to be applied to people who are over entitled and unable to cope with difficult situations in life. And can’t take the rigours of life. So as an example, need to be warned about the content of novels written at a different time, such as Dickens novels which depict how hard life was in that time for the poor. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what I thought.

Surely it is the implied meaning of the word, the intent that matters? I am happy to describe myself as 'woke' for example (not that I need to), but when the word is hurled around as an insult by Braverman, Badenoch, Patel etc it is meant to offend, to wound. On the other hand, I am delighted and proud to be the opposite of them when it comes to moral behaviour and beliefs. Oh, and I have been known to eat tofu.....

volver3

You know what happens when a lot of snowflakes get together?

An avalanche.

Here we come, take cover. 😉

Lol!

volver3

You know what happens when a lot of snowflakes get together?

An avalanche.

Here we come, take cover. 😉

Are you now claiming to be a snowflake V3?

volver3

You know what happens when a lot of snowflakes get together?

An avalanche.

Here we come, take cover. 😉

I never took you for a snowflake, volver
😲

This has just reminded me. I wrote this little ditty a while ago in a creative writing class )

Snowflakes
Why do they think they’re so special?
They aren’t like us – they don’t see things through.
They’d be lost without Facebook or Twitter,
And if war came, who knows what they’d do?
Even their food’s self-indulgent,
Quinoa, and pies free of meat.
They wouldn’t survive in a crisis
They’d wither and melt in the heat.

But we are the way that you made us,
We unicorns, fairies and elves.
You went to great lengths to persuade us
To be different and think for ourselves.
But we also think of one another,
And argue for communal cases
We consider our sisters and brothers,
And create them non-threatening spaces.
So don’t underestimate snowflakes.
The question’s, not ‘if’, but it’s ‘whether
An avalanche, snowball or glacier
Is what we’ll be when we stick together’.

maddyone

Neither did I Callistemon. I thought it was supposed to be applied to people who are over entitled and unable to cope with difficult situations in life. And can’t take the rigours of life. So as an example, need to be warned about the content of novels written at a different time, such as Dickens novels which depict how hard life was in that time for the poor. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what I thought.

Me too, Maddyone
We used to use the term wimp.

Not that it applies to anyone on here, I would have thought.

Doodledog
Great piece of verse.👏👏👏

Here's a not poem that isn't by me

^People who are quick to judge...
are slow to correct themselves^

^Judging a person does not define who they are...
it defines who you are^

^Never waste your time trying to explain who you are...
to people who are committed to misunderstanding you^

Stupid italics

Now it doesn't look fancy

Deedaa

I thought everybody knew Leadbelly, but I suppose I should revise that statement and say that everybody who was at art school and going to folk clubs in the 60s knew Leadbelly. My mother didn't think he was an acquired taste Dickens but she and my father had been art students in the 30s and their musical tastes were very much Blues and Jazz.

I t hink I've been woke for the last 60 years since reading the works of T H White as a teenager. I was very influenced by his ideas, particularly in regard to how we should treat others,

Thanks for reminding me Deedaa I was wondering how I knew about Leadbelly. My parents were Gilbert & Sullivan and musicals fans, so I knew it wasn't from them. But yes art college in the 60s when education was more than books and exams

Exactly VS!

That is why I. . .

Never waste my time trying to explain who I am ...
to people who are committed to misunderstanding me

. . . Never judge you - just let you demonstrate how your judgements make you appear, and understand if corrections are not quickly forthcoming.

Mollygo

Exactly VS!

That is why I. . .

Never waste my time trying to explain who I am ...
to people who are committed to misunderstanding me

. . . Never judge you - just let you demonstrate how your judgements make you appear, and understand if corrections are not quickly forthcoming.

Sorry but I don't understand what you mean Mollygo

Sorry but I don't understand what you mean Mollygo

That’s OK VS.

TerriBull, your post is very good. I think it is really important to remember that inclusiveness and acceptance shouldn't be at the detrement of other minority groups or causes. Sometimes being so open minded is actually very narrow minded.

Gagjo, I think for people in trauma caused by others, it is useful for them to understand why a person would behave in that way. I know for me, understanding what a sociopath is has helped me come to terms with my own trauma. It's not something I ever really mention to others in day to day life, so maybe people are just a bit more open online.

I agree, Jane. This is particularly the case when rights (or wants) conflict, and people have to search their consciences to decide which is more important to them.

Re ‘snowflake’
Its common usage predates ‘woke’.
I respect others understanding of the word, but for me I understood it to mean someone who lacks robustness and unable to debate anything.
Also ‘I’m so unique and special’; yes, we all are, petal 😉

I understood you perfectly Mollygo.

Predictable undertones lol

FannyCornforth

Re ‘snowflake’
Its common usage predates ‘woke’.
I respect others understanding of the word, but for me I understood it to mean someone who lacks robustness and unable to debate anything.
Also ‘I’m so unique and special’; yes, we all are, petal 😉

Yes Fanny. A good explanation.

VioletSky

Predictable undertones lol

Yours?

No, I see exactly what is happening

And I'm always happy to be direct about it

Bringing animosity to me on another thread for absolutely no reason... Again... And with the clique too

Very playground but I don't play silly games