Gransnet forums

Chat

To me......being called 'woke' is a compliment

(245 Posts)
Franbern Sat 29-Apr-23 09:10:55

This silly 'new' word WOKE. Exactly what does it mean. It is meant to be some sort of insult.

However, it seems to me that anyone who is woke means that they are caring, considerate people. People who really care about other people, and how they are managing and how they feel. It is 'woke' people who give donations to food banks, and give up their time to run them. Who also work in charity ships and similar.

Being woke just means being nice to other people, and walking in other peoples shoes.

Rather like Newspeak in 1984, somehow - being kind and caring has been made an insult in our Brave New World.

volver3 Sat 29-Apr-23 09:17:44

I agree 100% Franbern

Here's Jeremy Vine trying to change the dictionary

www.indy100.com/news/jeremy-vine-woke-meaning-show

Witzend Sat 29-Apr-23 09:17:52

To me it will depend on the degree of ‘wokery’. If that includes having to use terms like ‘birthing person’ instead of ‘mother’, and various euphemisms for ‘woman’, then I’m happy to be un-woke, but still (I hope) kind, caring, and lacking in prejudice towards LBGT people.

volver3 Sat 29-Apr-23 09:19:29

You've just made that up Witzend because someone has misled you about it. That's not what "woke" means at all.

Mollygo Sat 29-Apr-23 09:24:20

Insult or compliment, woke means exactly what the person using it intends.

Franbern Sat 29-Apr-23 09:25:01

"Woke is an African-American term, it means 'to be awake to injustice in society'", Natasha Devon explained on his talk show.

Nothing whatsoever to do with trying to make new silly definitions like the ones Wizend mentions.

volver3 Sat 29-Apr-23 09:28:06

I'd like to be known as a kelpie now, because I have decided that "kelpie" means a retired Scottish person.

No?

We don't get to choose our own meaning for words.

Franbern 👍🏼

Blondiescot Sat 29-Apr-23 09:29:58

I've posted on a few threads about this. When it comes to being 'woke', I'm firmly with the inimitable Kathy Burke, who said: “They’re calling you ‘woke’ if you call out bad things, basically. If you’re not racist, you’re woke. If you’re not homophobic, oh, you’re woke. Be woke, kids. Be woke. Be wide awake and f***ing call it out.”

Kandinsky Sat 29-Apr-23 09:30:08

Honestly, you’d think people weren’t aware of social injustice before this word came out of America a few years ago.
But if being called this new term makes people happier then great.

Mollygo Sat 29-Apr-23 09:31:54

Woke is an African-American term, it means 'to be awake to injustice in society'

But when people’s views on aspects of injustice in society differ, as I’ve often seen demonstrated on GN, each side claiming that they are suffering, the injustice, the terms woke or not woke are used as self praise and/or an insult.

volver3 Sat 29-Apr-23 09:34:51

Kandinsky

Honestly, you’d think people weren’t aware of social injustice before this word came out of America a few years ago.
But if being called this new term makes people happier then great.

1938.

Leadbelly.

Siope Sat 29-Apr-23 09:44:44

I am fascinated - and horrified - by how the right persistently twist woke into new meanings and insults to further culture wars that are entirely of their own making.

I’m always pleased to be on their wrong side.

Juliet27 Sat 29-Apr-23 09:45:12

I’d like to be known as a kelpie too volver as it’s a beautiful Australian dog

volver3 Sat 29-Apr-23 09:51:26

Juliet27

I’d like to be known as a kelpie too volver as it’s a beautiful Australian dog

oh, I'd forgotten about them.

I was thinking about this.

Either would be fine!

biglouis Sat 29-Apr-23 10:05:21

To me "wokery" has become intertwined with lots of rubbish about pulling down statues and people of my generation being made to feel they should apologize for what their grandparents did in the empire, as well as white privilage. My parents did not feel very privilaged in their tiny two up two down with no bathroom and Ive done more than my share for society so I have no patience with all this trendy garbage.

FannyCornforth Sat 29-Apr-23 10:06:25

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m001jc1l?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

Woke: The History of a Word. Matthew Syed

Foxygloves Sat 29-Apr-23 10:08:25

I was a Kelpie in the Brownies

volver3 Sat 29-Apr-23 10:10:10

biglouis

To me "wokery" has become intertwined with lots of rubbish about pulling down statues and people of my generation being made to feel they should apologize for what their grandparents did in the empire, as well as white privilage. My parents did not feel very privilaged in their tiny two up two down with no bathroom and Ive done more than my share for society so I have no patience with all this trendy garbage.

That's what they want you to believe biglouis.

Seems like you've fallen for it.

I'll be back later to explain white privilege, because that's not what you think it is either.

Siope Sat 29-Apr-23 10:13:19

biglouis

To me "wokery" has become intertwined with lots of rubbish about pulling down statues and people of my generation being made to feel they should apologize for what their grandparents did in the empire, as well as white privilage. My parents did not feel very privilaged in their tiny two up two down with no bathroom and Ive done more than my share for society so I have no patience with all this trendy garbage.

And there you are, proving my point.

Curtaintwitcher Sat 29-Apr-23 10:14:48

The word 'woke' simply means being aware. However, it has been hi-jacked by those seeking to impose their ridiculous ideology on the rest of us. Sadly, too many people are only too eager to be seen as trendy and happily embrace their nonsense without considering the true agenda behind it all.

volver3 Sat 29-Apr-23 10:19:43

No Curtaintwister, it has been hijacked by those who think they are having an ideology imposed on them, and by those who want to exploit that fear.

That's different.

biglouis Sat 29-Apr-23 10:27:26

Whatever it is or people think it is I cannot be arrised with it!

Siope Sat 29-Apr-23 10:34:19

Aware of what, curtaintwitcher?

aonk Sat 29-Apr-23 10:38:35

I don’t like the connotations of that word and don’t use it. Like many others I know I’m involved with a food bank and have done quite a lot of voluntary work over the years. It’s the right thing to do although I wouldn’t normally discuss it. It’s surprising how many people help in various ways but never speak of it.

volver3 Sat 29-Apr-23 10:49:08

biglouis

Whatever it is or people think it is I cannot be arrised with it!

But you can be arrised, apparently, to come on GN and have a moan about it?

White privilege doesn't mean that every white person is living an easy life.

It means that in general, white people never have to contend with discrimination based on the colour of their skin. That's all.