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Boris is going to write in the Daily Mail

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25Avalon Fri 16-Jun-23 14:53:17

For DM and Boris haters he is going to be writing a weekly column in the DM!

Primrose53 Sun 18-Jun-23 12:01:22

FannyCornforth

Callistemon it’s a really boring read, it’s about his diet and diet drugs.

As an aside, who does he think he’s kidding with his ‘jogging’?

I sincerely hope that he won’t be bringing out a fitness dvd for Christmas

Why do you assume he is “kidding” anybody with his jogging? Can’t he even go for a run without having to explain himself?

He has been a jogger since his Uni days as well as playing lots of other sports as he is very competitive. I saw someone on TV once who said Boris is a great tennis player and someone scary to play against. They also said he is surprisingly agile for someone big and bulky.

I don’t think his column was a boring read either. It was well written, truthful and funny in parts. He admits he has always loved food and sneaks downstairs at night looking for treats to eat. He says the diet jabs didn’t work for him and they didn’t for my neighbour either. She lost less than 7 lbs in 6 weeks, still feels hungry and it’s costing her £170 a month.

FannyCornforth Sun 18-Jun-23 12:15:38

Primrose it’s hardly the ‘required reading in Westminster - and across the world!’ as The DM hyperbolically trumpeted on Friday.

I’m sure most that readers were left disappointed.

And old hack could have written it.

Dickens Sun 18-Jun-23 12:54:31

Callistemon21

I often agree with your posts, Dickens as they are usually full of common sense but I cannot agree with the attack on Witzend.
She didn't say she held Boris in high regard at all, it was
Just an observation on why, perhaps, the sales of the DM may have gone up.

DM readers are subjected to an almost daily onslaught if disparaging comments from other posters who, by their posts, obviously consider themselves intellectually superior to the uneducated who read that 'rag'.
It is, though, noteworthy and ironic that most of the links on here to articles in the DM are from those who profess to despise it but must scour it regularly in order to become enraged.

I don't read it btw so no axe to grind except fairness.

There are many of us who have reason to feel enraged by some of his actions. I couldn't visit DH in hospital but Boris and his cronies were partying so yes, I'm angry too.

I hope you're on the road to recovery now.

She didn't say she held Boris in high regard at all...

Indeed she didn't... and I didn't accuse her of doing so !

That wasn't my argument.

I'm not one of those who sneer at the DM readership - I think it has quite a broad base in truth, the assumption that only the 'uneducated-working-class' read it I believe is false.

I do however think it is politically slanted - but in less subtle ways than, for example, The Guardian.

The Guardian used to allow comments on many of its articles, and now - not so much. Many of us commenting came to the conclusion that there was a 'narrative' - and it was one that the commenters were not necessarily following, me included. IMO, not allowing comments on controversial topics because they don't reflect the paper's credo, is just a more subtle form of media bias.

Dickens Sun 18-Jun-23 13:05:47

FannyCornforth

Callistemon it’s a really boring read, it’s about his diet and diet drugs.

As an aside, who does he think he’s kidding with his ‘jogging’?

I sincerely hope that he won’t be bringing out a fitness dvd for Christmas

As an aside, who does he think he’s kidding with his ‘jogging’?

It's quite possible that his jogging and diet are in fact having an effect - in that these disciplines could well be preventing him from putting on more unwanted weight. He's at an age when getting-fit is more difficult, and the results sometimes less obvious!

FannyCornforth Sun 18-Jun-23 13:13:43

Dickens tell me about it! 🤦‍♀️

Dickens Sun 18-Jun-23 13:31:47

maddyone

I hope you’re getting well too Dickens.

I was ill and in hospital too during that period, but I was only in for twelve days with Covid. With regard to my not having any visitors during that period, I’m not seething. I knew everything was being done by my doctors and nurses to get me well and frankly I didn’t/don’t care what people in Downing Street were doing. I cared about me getting well and going home and I put all my effort into that. No one could visit my elderly mother either when she was in hospital then. We accepted it because it was what it was. Luckily she got better at that time and so did I. Four months is a long time without visitors, hopefully you could talk on the phone to your husband and family.

Thank you maddyone - it's ongoing, but I'm not expecting any more lengthy stays in hospital (the last was my second four-month stint). And there are others who are far worse off than me, something I became aware of during my stay.

Anything over a few days in hospital feels like a long-time, and I suspect your 12 days was long enough for you to want to be back home PDQ. You must have been quite poorly with COVID to be in for that length of time.

I accepted the situation, I knew that keeping me in and away from other patients and visitors was in my best interests. It was confining though, and my room was tiny and cramped and I did have a couple of wobbly moments of panic - which is why I was allowed to stalk the corridors at midnight. I think I was more worried about my OH frankly, and it was the feelings of helplessness and the inability to do anything about it that led to the panic attacks.

As for what was going on in Downing Street - I don't think any of us knew anyway and, as you say, when you're ill in hospital, your focus is on getting well, and getting out.

My 'beef' with Johnson is his lack of honesty, the lies, the deception, and his refusal to accept any culpability or responsibility for his actions. He does indeed seem to feel that he should be free of the constraints that normally bind other people, and that we are callous for not allowing him to do so.

If he'd put his hands up right from the moment he was caught out and accepted whatever 'punishment' was seen as a necessary embargo on his parliamentary activities, 'Partygate' might never have got off the ground.

FannyCornforth Sun 18-Jun-23 13:53:56

Dickens four months, you poor thing. thanks

My husband was in ICU three times in one year, but they were short stays.
He suffered from PTSD a few months later.

You are doing really, really well.

Grantanow Mon 19-Jun-23 18:13:26

I have read the Daily Mail a few times but frankly it's not worth reading and I never read it now. Paying BoJo to write for it does not encourage me to read it at all. Too much tripe about 'celebrities' and the like.

Iam64 Mon 19-Jun-23 20:11:54

Dickens and maddyone - your posts remind us what a serious variant we were at risk of catching and spreading.
Many people died and many left with serious long term health problems.
It does matter to me what those in government and those working for them were doing. Breaching guidance was unforgivable

Oldbat1 Mon 19-Jun-23 20:22:12

Oxford MAs do not require any further study if you wait 7years.

Foxygloves Mon 19-Jun-23 21:57:42

Everybody is so quick to deride the Daily Mail but it has sterling service on the bottom of the budgie’s cage for years.

Foxygloves Mon 19-Jun-23 21:58:23

Oops “it has done sterling service” 👏👏

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 19-Jun-23 22:00:08

Not to mention wrapping the fish and chips years ago.

Callistemon21 Mon 19-Jun-23 23:38:05

Germanshepherdsmum

Not to mention wrapping the fish and chips years ago.

Much more eco-friendly than polystyrene boxes, although our fish and chip shop uses cardboard boxes now.
Newspaper is a good insulator, it kept them hot.

DH suggested we use it to clean the windows as our mothers used to do - we need something to get rid of smears!
Newspaper and vinegar.

nanna8 Tue 20-Jun-23 03:00:21

Yes- on the rare occasions I clean the windows I use that. Looking at them now I would say they are due for a good clean!

nanna8 Tue 20-Jun-23 03:03:46

I was listening to something onU tube, Piers ploughman Ackerman or someone, who said that at least Boris had a personality and a bit of life about him unlike the rest of them . Interesting comment I thought.

Dickens Tue 20-Jun-23 08:04:59

nanna8

I was listening to something onU tube, Piers ploughman Ackerman or someone, who said that at least Boris had a personality and a bit of life about him unlike the rest of them . Interesting comment I thought.

When you consider that a Prime Minister can make decisions that might have a tremendous impact on people's lives and livelihoods, their lively personality will be of little comfort to those who are adversely affected.

Personally - and I realise I might be in a minority here - I'd rather have someone 'in charge' who had a little gravitas and a vague notion at least of doing what is in the best interests of the nation as a whole.

Some of the most notorious tyrants in history had a "personality". Not that I'm suggesting Johnson is a tyrant. But he is a scourge.

Tony Blair had charisma and a personality, but given the human cost of the decision to invade Iraq and the inevitable disintegration of that country, I think there might be something to be said in favour of "the rest of them" without such entertaining traits.

Iam64 Tue 20-Jun-23 08:16:47

I don’t believe you’re in a minority Dickens. I listened to Nicky Campbell’s phone in yesterday morning. The aim is to present ‘balanced’ calls. The vast majority of callers were very angry about Johnson, a minority using the argument he’s entertaining/it’s a with hunt. He was dreadful

FannyCornforth Tue 20-Jun-23 08:50:09

Definitely not a minority Dickens

Mentioning Johnson’s famous ‘charisma’ is usually a last ditch response from his ever desperate fans (along with his ‘towering intellect’)

Callistemon21 Tue 20-Jun-23 10:22:52

nanna8

I was listening to something onU tube, Piers ploughman Ackerman or someone, who said that at least Boris had a personality and a bit of life about him unlike the rest of them . Interesting comment I thought.

I would say he has a flawed personality, perhaps the result of his upbringing?
He is described by one psychologist as having the trait of moral disengagement.

Dickens Tue 20-Jun-23 11:20:34

Callistemon21

nanna8

I was listening to something onU tube, Piers ploughman Ackerman or someone, who said that at least Boris had a personality and a bit of life about him unlike the rest of them . Interesting comment I thought.

I would say he has a flawed personality, perhaps the result of his upbringing?
He is described by one psychologist as having the trait of moral disengagement.

... moral disengagement

I must remember that phrase for other occasions... it's quite a polite way of saying that someone is without principles and immoral grin

Callistemon21 Tue 20-Jun-23 12:52:37

It is rather polite, isn't it!

Callistemon21 Tue 20-Jun-23 12:53:29

I'd call him a blagger.

FannyCornforth Tue 20-Jun-23 12:59:12

I daren’t say what I call him…

Dickens Tue 20-Jun-23 17:35:20

I'd say he's 'amoral'.

Max Hastings acknowledged his "charisma" - but wasn't fooled by it.

I think he was possibly over-indulged as a child. A child from a very privileged background (and no, I'm not knocking the wealthy - who aren't all without a sense of right and wrong). He's led something of a charmed life and his flamboyant personality has allowed him to get away with things others, less endowed, might not have been able to.

... but that's enough of my pseudo psycho babble for one day grin.