Drag Queens

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Genuinely baffled by your comment Fancythat

Violet - punch and Judy has always been horrific. There was a traditional one at the seaside we took our yiung grandchildren to. The six and seven year olds were excited wanted to watch. Within minutes the boys were horrified, wanted to know what was meant to be funny about hurting the baby.?

Punch and Judy's origins were in the early 19th century, not exactly enlightened times.

Drag is fine in comedy, Mr Humphries, lieutenant Gruber. Larry Grayson, Dame Edna it’s when it gets serious that problems start.
We all laugh at the characters played, real life, real people is different.

Well, actually you are, whether you realise it or not. I'm very sorry that your childhood was not a happy one violetsky but I'm not at all sure what that has to do with drag queens reading to young children? As I said, your anger could derail the discussion and introducing your childhood is another distraction from the subject isnt it? Anyway, have you read the statement written by Chad Greene? He's an excellent advocate for transgender rights and he expressed some serious concerns about introducing children to the drag queen circuit. Do you agree with him? Or not? And why?

A drag queen is a grotesque exaggeration of a woman, something that I find offensive.

Punch and Judy isn’t comparable to drag queens being chosen over other groups to read to children
What experience of reading with children do they have

Beetlejuice

Well, actually you are, whether you realise it or not. I'm very sorry that your childhood was not a happy one violetsky but I'm not at all sure what that has to do with drag queens reading to young children? As I said, your anger could derail the discussion and introducing your childhood is another distraction from the subject isnt it? Anyway, have you read the statement written by Chad Greene? He's an excellent advocate for transgender rights and he expressed some serious concerns about introducing children to the drag queen circuit. Do you agree with him? Or not? And why?

I don't know you and haven't ever spoken to you before

I mentioned punch and Judy, this does not give you free reign to comment on another person's childhood

toscalily

A drag queen is a grotesque exaggeration of a woman, something that I find offensive.

Me too. It's offensive in the same way as is a golly.

Whether children go to see a drag queen read a children's book is up to the parents.

The evidence I've seen contained no boobs or provocative clothing as all and it was an entirely normal children's book

I just let people live the life that makes them authentically happy as long as no safeguarding or laws are broken

Excuse me but it was you who introduced your childhood into a discussion about drag queens, not me! I simply pointed out that it didn't have anything to do with the subject and could we please keep on topic. I still ask that you keep to the topic please because it's a very important and interesting subject. Again I'll ask what is your opinion of Chad Greene's statement violetsky?

So, some bloke can be authentically happy reading to small children who cannot understand the wider significance, may be quite unsettled even frightened by this person but that makes it alright because "he" is happy?

Or anyone else have an opinion on Chad's statement? Do you think what he says is fair, considering the angle that he's speaking from?

A small child cannot make an informed choice where they go, they are just taken. There is a possibility that they would not be able to articulate any uneasiness or confusion.

Beetlejuice

Excuse me but it was you who introduced your childhood into a discussion about drag queens, not me! I simply pointed out that it didn't have anything to do with the subject and could we please keep on topic. I still ask that you keep to the topic please because it's a very important and interesting subject. Again I'll ask what is your opinion of Chad Greene's statement violetsky?

You said "I'm very sorry that your childhood was an unhappy one"

I did not mention that on this thread at all.

I simply mentioned punch and Judy as something that I saw in childhood

Also I have no idea who that is to comment?

I have no problems with drag queens, but why would they be pacifically be asked to read to young children.
I don't think it is nessasary.

Years ago I worked in pubs and came into contact with drag queens, they were fine and entertaining in the right setting, I do not think specifically getting them to read to children is.

toscalily

A drag queen is a grotesque exaggeration of a woman, something that I find offensive.

I agree. It’s mocking women and exploiting them. I’ve never been comfortable with it, even going back to the relatively innocent days of Dick Emery.

The same doesn’t happen with women dressing up in exaggerated versions of men, does it?

Yes there are women who do drag

Would love to see the children’s faces in my nursery if a drag queen came in.

Children don't care, they will be read to by Mr Tumble or a big purple dinosaur quite happily

How does drag differ from blackface, VS?

I like the idea of children growing up around as many different kinds of people as possible, hopefully, they will not be prejudiced when older.

Mr Tumble does drag fyi

I must have misunderstood your post My childhood was Punch hitting Judy with a big stick but you know as a personal anecdote violetsky.

Chad Greene, as explained earlier, is a transgender activitist and author of several books that details his personal journey with gender dysphoria. He's done a huge amount of work in raising awareness of being transgender and the difficulties of daily minutiae of just living his life. He's also empathetic towards those in society who are fearful and wary of transgender people and seeks to allay their fears and misgivings in a very open and understanding manner. I have huge respect for someone who hasn't had an easy life, but has come to a point in his life where he can see things from other people's perspectives.