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Dietary requirements - are people fussier now ?

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nanna8 Wed 05-Jul-23 13:07:40

It seems there are more and more of my friends and family having specific dietary requirements. We have gluten free, lactose free, meat free, onion free, chicken free, dairy free and that is just amongst people we know well. Are there more allergies around these days or is it just that we know more about what we should or should not consume ? Have to say it makes it difficult to ask people round these days and now we prefer to go out with friends rather than invite them round .

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 06-Jul-23 22:39:28

CBBL

I have a problem with fresh onion. In the event that I accidentally bite into it - this provokes a "heave/vomit" response which is probably worse for other people than it is for me. I have no problem with dried onions and use these all the time. When eating out, or with family/friends, I just pick out onion if it's large enough to be seen. If chopped small, I take very small amounts and swallow without chewing. Although I can "taste" onion for quite a long time after eating it, there seems to be no other I'll effect!

That sounds more like a food aversion than anything else.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 06-Jul-23 22:45:01

Callistemon21

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DaisyAnneReturns

Sorry, I should have added that I am sure we will one day rue our use of ultra-processed foods.

Yes i think that it is now being implicated in all sorts of nasties like cancers etc.

I read ages ago that our digestive systems are really still at the hunting gathering stage and haven’t developed to deal with a modern diet. I suspect there is truth in that theory.

DD, who is coeliac, finds a Paleo diet is good, without, of course the addition of most grains.
It's not just wheat, barley and oats can cause problems top.

I'm probably telling you what you know already but you can get GF free oats. It's worth checking if you have oatmilk in coffee when out as it can have additives that are not gluten free, so it is easier to froth.

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 22:57:50

DaisyAnneReturns

Callistemon21

Whitewavemark2

DaisyAnneReturns

Sorry, I should have added that I am sure we will one day rue our use of ultra-processed foods.

Yes i think that it is now being implicated in all sorts of nasties like cancers etc.

I read ages ago that our digestive systems are really still at the hunting gathering stage and haven’t developed to deal with a modern diet. I suspect there is truth in that theory.

DD, who is coeliac, finds a Paleo diet is good, without, of course the addition of most grains.
It's not just wheat, barley and oats can cause problems top.

I'm probably telling you what you know already but you can get GF free oats. It's worth checking if you have oatmilk in coffee when out as it can have additives that are not gluten free, so it is easier to froth.

Yes, we've tried GF oats but there is a protein called avenin in oats which doesn't suit some coeliacs, although some are fine with it.
Thanks for the tip about the oat milk

Summerlove Thu 06-Jul-23 23:04:13

Norah

Mollygo Chatting with some American friends who we were meeting up with on holiday in France. My friend said she reckons European gluten won’t affect her as it’s different from US gluten. Who knew?

Most amusing thing I've read today. grin

It actually is different though

Callistemon21 Thu 06-Jul-23 23:13:10

Summerlove

Norah

Mollygo Chatting with some American friends who we were meeting up with on holiday in France. My friend said she reckons European gluten won’t affect her as it’s different from US gluten. Who knew?

Most amusing thing I've read today. grin

It actually is different though

The wheats are different and the amount of gluten varies.

Most, not all, American wheat is hard wheat, higher in gluten and the gluten is stronger too. It is better for breadmaking.
Most, not all, European wheat is generally soft wheat which is lower in gluten.

Wheats have been developed to be higher and higher in gluten content.
Original wheat varieties aren't that high in gluten so old grains may be better for those who have an intolerance, but none are suitable for coeliacs.

Quichette Thu 06-Jul-23 23:58:40

Norah

Mollygo Chatting with some American friends who we were meeting up with on holiday in France. My friend said she reckons European gluten won’t affect her as it’s different from US gluten. Who knew?

Most amusing thing I've read today. grin

As wheat in the US is routinely sprayed with Roundup weed killer I suspect the chemical which is carcinogenic may be the cause of stomach upset and not the gluten. She may be right.

growstuff Fri 07-Jul-23 00:23:29

www.snopes.com/fact-check/wheat-toxic/

NannyEm Fri 07-Jul-23 01:26:54

I'm sure you are right. My Dad passed away at almost 104 and looked younger than some 50 year olds. I've always put it down to a good, preservative-free diet.

nanna8 Fri 07-Jul-23 02:28:05

There was an item on our news this week about Diet Coke being carcinogenic. I don’t drink that but I went and checked the label on my diet ginger beer. Looks like the same additive. Sigh.

LRavenscroft Fri 07-Jul-23 07:28:27

NannyEm

I'm sure you are right. My Dad passed away at almost 104 and looked younger than some 50 year olds. I've always put it down to a good, preservative-free diet.

I think you are right. All my grandparents lived to a ripe old age despite 2 world wars and the Great Depression. Their grandchildren seemed to pass away with alcohol and drug related illnesses at a much earlier age.

Grammaretto Fri 07-Jul-23 07:47:34

I wish there was scientific evidence to prove the link between a preservative free diet and a long and healthy life LRavenscroft.
DH, who died of cancer in his mid 70s ate the best possible diet, organic veg, eggs, meat etc whereas his DF outlived him and smoked, drank and even ridiculed his DS.

There must be other reasons why some people are healthier than others.

Redhead56 Fri 07-Jul-23 08:17:12

An ex partner of mine was a vegetarian this was in 1970s. We didn’t have Cranks or vegetarian restaurants where we lived. If he did eat out the choice available was only ever salad. There really wasn’t much choice for protein alternatives then unlike now the choice is vast.

I have family members who are vegans who don’t eat any meat or fish alternatives. They have so many reasons why that it’s impossible to keep up with them. When they eat out staff get a complete list of their preferences and they quote every possible allergy around.

Grammaretto Fri 07-Jul-23 08:31:42

I work in the shop/café founded by DH. We cater for vegans, gluten free, veggies and even carnivores!
I'm on duty this morning and there'll be at least one who'll ask for a vegan black pudding roll! Plus the oat lattes and even coconut milk in coffee . I try not to grimace grin

Sparklefizz Fri 07-Jul-23 10:01:12

For 3 years I had to live on only 6 foods because everything else made me very ill. No help from the NHS who said they didn't know what to do with me. Their advice was just to avoid the foods making me ill which left me with just 6. I can tolerate a few more foods now, but am having to pay for alternative therapies to help me.

Wish it was just fussiness with me.

Norah Fri 07-Jul-23 11:53:38

Callistemon21

Summerlove

Norah

Mollygo Chatting with some American friends who we were meeting up with on holiday in France. My friend said she reckons European gluten won’t affect her as it’s different from US gluten. Who knew?

Most amusing thing I've read today. grin

It actually is different though

The wheats are different and the amount of gluten varies.

Most, not all, American wheat is hard wheat, higher in gluten and the gluten is stronger too. It is better for breadmaking.
Most, not all, European wheat is generally soft wheat which is lower in gluten.

Wheats have been developed to be higher and higher in gluten content.
Original wheat varieties aren't that high in gluten so old grains may be better for those who have an intolerance, but none are suitable for coeliacs.

All wheat contains some gluten. Coeliacs must not have any gluten.

Jaxjacky Fri 07-Jul-23 12:24:04

nanna8

There was an item on our news this week about Diet Coke being carcinogenic. I don’t drink that but I went and checked the label on my diet ginger beer. Looks like the same additive. Sigh.

I think it’s Aspartamin nanna8 the World Health Organisation are allegedly going to release a report saying it’s ‘possibly’ carcinogenic, not ‘probably’ or ‘definitely is’, their other two categories.

timetogo2016 Fri 07-Jul-23 12:47:23

I have had that conversation with my Gp and a consultant when i broke my wrist a few years ago
Cut a long story short,i had my wrist PULLED back into place by a gentleman from Africa who worked in the jungle,they don`t have medication there so he and obviously others do lots of procedures without medication.
HE did the pulling whilst another was holding me back,and my lovely D/in-law who is a nurse held my good hand with tears in her eyes.
As for if i`m in an accident ?.