Housing/Help for Adults with learning difficulties

All our ancestors came to this country in a small boat, whether they were Bronze Age migrants, Iron Age, Anglo-Saxons, Huguenots, Irish, Scottish, West Indian, African, Indian sub continent, EU citizens

Where do you draw your line?

We have, until recently had a intermittently growing economy. Growing so fast that it is being held back by the lack of workers to do the jobs available. Many EU citizens returned home after Brexit, making the situation worse.

The NHS is totally dependent on immigrants from other countries, as is farming, care work and many other key sectors of our economy.

There is a housing problem. Not enough houses have beenbuilt over decades. This problem isn't caused by the immigrants it is caused by governments

Who do you suggest we send home to free a house for your daughter? Doctors? Nurses? Care workers? Farm workers? Pharmacists?

Housing those with disabilities, whether physical or mental, is entirely separate from the main housing market and if your daughter and boyfriend are currently homeless then turn your wrath on your local authority or the government for not ensuring that the vulnerable are properly housed.

Blaming people who come to this country to work hard, look after our health, care for the disabledwho need help, feed us and do a host of other things is misplaced and unjust.

Not sure about this one. The local authority dont have to house an unmarried couple together I presume? Who qualifies for the supported housing? Are they in receipt of PIP? Where did they live before they were homeless? If your daughter needs supported living why can’t she be at home with you? Does your daughter have a social worker? Not sure what this has to do with people in small boats.

I totally agree with you Monica This country has always been built on immigration
You cannot blame immigration (by whatever door) for your daughters plight
Please put the blame in the right place, the government hasn’t built any where near enough affordable housing, they sold off a lot of the council houses it’s I m afraid yet again a Tory made problem our country was built by Vikings, Romans, celts Anglo Saxons and every other you can think of building our roads/ towns etc etc

Why is your daughter homeless? Where has she been living ? What led to her losing her home ?

There’s not really enough information here to make an informed comment.
Why are they homeless? Where have they been living? Do they both need supportive living ?
Supportive living accommodation is different to normal stock and for anyone it doesn’t happen overnight.

M0nica

All our ancestors came to this country in a small boat, whether they were Bronze Age migrants, Iron Age, Anglo-Saxons, Huguenots, Irish, Scottish, West Indian, African, Indian sub continent, EU citizens

Where do you draw your line?

We have, until recently had a intermittently growing economy. Growing so fast that it is being held back by the lack of workers to do the jobs available. Many EU citizens returned home after Brexit, making the situation worse.

The NHS is totally dependent on immigrants from other countries, as is farming, care work and many other key sectors of our economy.

There is a housing problem. Not enough houses have beenbuilt over decades. This problem isn't caused by the immigrants it is caused by governments

Who do you suggest we send home to free a house for your daughter? Doctors? Nurses? Care workers? Farm workers? Pharmacists?

Housing those with disabilities, whether physical or mental, is entirely separate from the main housing market and if your daughter and boyfriend are currently homeless then turn your wrath on your local authority or the government for not ensuring that the vulnerable are properly housed.

Blaming people who come to this country to work hard, look after our health, care for the disabledwho need help, feed us and do a host of other things is misplaced and unjust.

Well said, MOnica!

The government has been very successful in making people think that it is ANYONE but them who is the cause of the problems faced by people like your daughter - refugees; greedy NHS/care workers/teachers; people on benefits.

LilyoftheValley I do feel sorry for your daughter and her partner, but your blame is misplaced.
It is cuts by the government; poor organisation by the government; privatisation; rich people's off shore tax havens; wasting public money on giving contracts to wealthy 'mates' and many more reasons. Divide and rule seems to be their policy.

It is NOT refugees that are the problem; in a country well run
for the many, not the few, decent affordable housing would not be a problem.

Oh, I left out the Vikings.

M0nica

All our ancestors came to this country in a small boat, whether they were Bronze Age migrants, Iron Age, Anglo-Saxons, Huguenots, Irish, Scottish, West Indian, African, Indian sub continent, EU citizens

Where do you draw your line?

We have, until recently had a intermittently growing economy. Growing so fast that it is being held back by the lack of workers to do the jobs available. Many EU citizens returned home after Brexit, making the situation worse.

The NHS is totally dependent on immigrants from other countries, as is farming, care work and many other key sectors of our economy.

There is a housing problem. Not enough houses have beenbuilt over decades. This problem isn't caused by the immigrants it is caused by governments

Who do you suggest we send home to free a house for your daughter? Doctors? Nurses? Care workers? Farm workers? Pharmacists?

Housing those with disabilities, whether physical or mental, is entirely separate from the main housing market and if your daughter and boyfriend are currently homeless then turn your wrath on your local authority or the government for not ensuring that the vulnerable are properly housed.

Blaming people who come to this country to work hard, look after our health, care for the disabledwho need help, feed us and do a host of other things is misplaced and unjust.

I wouldn't called armed invasion, to take the land for themselves, to kill and enslave the original Britons, immigrants. They were invaders, first and foremost.

Well said Cloughdancer
My local hospital has a notice up that says it’s doctors/nurses and other workers come from 53 different countries and all working together with one aim to save lives no matter what colour, what status What a joy
As yet we don’t know why lilyofthevalleys daughter is in this situation and it’s sad and worrying for her and you but your anger whilst understandable is totally misplaced lily

Legal migrants are fine by me. It is the ones who are making a mockery of immigration law who share the blame, I think. Of course we have been integrated with other nationalities in the past and, I think, for the good.

However, this ceaseless stream of backdoor people will weaken our economy not boost it.

If your daughter and boyfriend have learning difficulties then you need to pester the council and get them on the highest band. I am assuming they are registered with their local council but they may be on a less urgent band.

Get in touch with your MP and explain the situation and I am sure they will help to get them in a priority band. Just keep on at anybody who will listen.

It’s all very well for people to run on about Vikings, Hugenots etc but that is not helpful. We all know this country has an excellent record of welcoming people from other countries but times were different then. We now have massive shortage of properties, overcrowded schools, no chance of dentists, huge NHS problems etc.

If your daughter and her partner are sofa surfing or living in a tent then they deserve sympathy and a roof over their heads. It must be an extremely stressful time for you all. Imagine if they didn’t have you looking out for them?

If their learning difficulties are such that they need you to act on their behalf then you will need to sort that with the council.

Does your area operate a Bidding system on social housing?

Please let us know how you get on, but start with MP.

But lilyofthevalley you wrote: What makes me so cross is that people who have never paid a penny into the community pot and most likely never will, are being housed and fed because they are exploiting the system and come into the country the back way.

I doubt there is a single boat or lorry immigant who comes here looking for an easy life Most of them, as can be seen from the behaviour of the majority of immigrants whose claims for assylum are accepted, come here to live free from fear and to work hard and earn a living, not just for themselves, but also families still in their home communities.

Barely a day passes but we read about the success of immigrant children at school, at university and elsewhere and the business and career success of other immigrants. Many, in their home countries had been doctors, teachers, engineers, and other professionals with good careers there, why on earth should they give all this up to come to the UK to work in menial jobs, to live in substandard housing, to struggle in a language which is not their mother tongue?

You’re falling into the Tory propaganda’s machine lily and you ve still told us nothing about your daughter only your bitterness and anger
Which is the most important ?

These people who you have such dislike of are not being housed where your daughter could be housed they are mostly living in horrible conditions with no knowledge of where
they ll be shunted off to These people who risk their lives to get away from whatever they are fleeing from, do not do it lightly it’s so expensive so full of danger. Many are mostly people with money who have spent every last penny to get their families away We are short of Labour badly in this country they should be able to work instead of staying in dirnateries being and feeling useless
So now what has happened to your daughter to make her homeless hopefully she will be staying with you or other family until she can get back on her feet

FGS Back off and give lily a break!
You all sound like Corbyn who seemed to care more about people in every other country than his own.

If she says her daughter and partner are homeless then that’s enough for her to share. There could be many reasons and they are for her to know and decide whether she shares them.
Don’t you think she has enough on her plate without you pushing your political views down her throat?

Her priority is, rightly, her own family before anybody else.

Bluebelle I am not and have never been a Conservative supporter and I have never, ever voted Conserative, in any type of election. Mind you, the same applies to the Labour party.

I have dealt only with the stories about immigrants that lilyinthevalley has posted, most of which are inaccurate.

The housing problems of he daughter sound difficult, although as LotV has not published the further information several people have requested, it is difficult to make a judgement. But the problem lies with the local Authority and their Social Workers, rather than the relatively small number of immigrants that arrive by small boat but engender big headlines.

I don’t understand why OP’s daughter and her partner are homeless. She hasn’t said. Do they work? Have they paid into this pot she talks of which seems essential in her mind to qualify for being housed?

I don’t think the OP ever mentioned learning difficulties?

Calendargirl

I don’t think the OP ever mentioned learning difficulties?

No, but it’s in the title of her thread.

Ashcombe

Calendargirl

I don’t think the OP ever mentioned learning difficulties?

No, but it’s in the title of her thread.

Yes, just noticed that.

Apologies.

Calendargirl

I don’t think the OP ever mentioned learning difficulties?

The thread heading says adults with learning difficulties

Monica we are singing from the same hymn sheet not sure why you are answering as if I ve opposed what you said further up I said I agreed with everything you wrote ???

I know two adults with learning difficulties who have been very well looked after. One person is housed and cared for by a charity. I guess some learning difficulties will have a higher priority?
Seems to me that some conditions will have attracted support from birth and that support continues into adulthood. I would not want anyone to think that this country neglects the most needy unlike some European countries - Greece in particular!

It’s really pointless unless Lily comes back with some information I hope this wasn’t just an inflammatory post

Forget about blame why is your daughter and boyfriend homeless which surely is the main point of the whole story and you haven’t touched on ?

Sorry, Bluebelle, failed to see the reference to 'lilly' in the first line of your last post and as it came directly after mine, I thought you were referring to me!

Ok Monica no worries, I was totally with you all the way 😀