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MUCH older than me (in her nineties) neighbour

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FrankandEarnest Wed 06-Sept-23 11:48:10

Primarily, this is my neighbour in a very nice close
of maisonettes,
with gardens, next to the village hall,
being told I should come to (chair based!) yoga, bingo, boardgames, slide shows, talks, coffee mornings, etc etc by neighbour concerned that I ‘sit in’ all day as I must be ‘lonely’
I was so astonished by all this I couldn’t respond.

The reason they don‘t see me all day is because I’m not there

The total lack of privacy is really ennervating,

thanks for reading

btw, a few years ago I read some of the Neighbours from Hell accounts, 2 in particular had me close to tears : this is by no means in the same league but troublesome nevertheless,
relentless unwanted attention.

sodapop Wed 06-Sept-23 12:12:53

Maybe you are misconstruing concern and friendliness for nosiness FrankandEarnest. If you explain you don't want to join the groups as you have other things going on that should help. Don't undervalue a nice neighbourhood and friendly people, not everyone has that.

Salti Wed 06-Sept-23 13:04:06

Obviously your neighbour doesn't watch your comings and goings too carefully or she would know that you're out for most of the day.

She is probably just trying to be nice. I'd have a chat and a coffee with her and explain that you're just too busy. She is probably the lonely one.

Foxygloves Wed 06-Sept-23 13:06:14

I am sure the invitations and suggestions are kindly meant.
It can be hard to take a deep breath and join some new activity where you know nobody and these may simply have been an overture of friendly welcome.
Of course you don't have to do anything, but declining politely hurts nobody and leaves the door open if you should feel the need for company in the future. Its not intrusive to show good neighbourliness is it?
And bottom line is you can go out and do your own thing. They will soon realise you have your own life. Good neighbours can be worth their weight in gold and there are enough stories of loneliness and isolation in our later years to see this in a different and kinder light.

FarNorth Wed 06-Sept-23 13:12:34

What did you reply FrankandEarnest?
In that situation, in my neighbourhood, there would most likely be a cheerful reply about being out rather than sitting in alone, followed by a short chat about interests and a comment that they'd maybe drop into a coffee morning some time if at a loose end.

I do live in quite a friendly place.

2020convert Wed 06-Sept-23 13:14:34

“Total lack of privacy”?
You must have privacy or your neighbour would know you frequently leave your home.
I’m sure she was just being friendly.
Nothing to sorry yourself about.

FarNorth Wed 06-Sept-23 13:15:05

Oh, I missed that you 'couldn't respond'. That must have seemed strange to your neighbour.

Theexwife Wed 06-Sept-23 13:16:05

It seems your objection is that you are seen as in the same age group as the other residents, the exclamation mark after chair yoga and the title of your thread.

Is it an area with mostly older people? If so then you can understand why people assume you are one of them.

I think many people do not see themselves as others do, being young of mind does not always show physically.

grandtanteJE65 Wed 06-Sept-23 13:46:08

Thank her for her suggestions and explain nicely that you do not have time for these activities right now, as you are out all day.

Then try to forget her kind suggestions - I am sure they are meant kindly.

That is what I am doing right now with two women friends who are both brimming over with ideas for where I am to live and what I am to do in my widowhood, since hearing that my husband has been diagnosed with cancer.

I have thanked them kindly for their concern, but pointed out that it is somewhat premature and not helpful at all right now, where we are concentrating on DH getting treatment and if we are lucky going into remission, so widowhood is not my primary concern right now.

M0nica Wed 06-Sept-23 13:51:21

Your post doesn't make sense. You say your neighbour is concerned that you sit in all day and must be lonely

Yet she clearly doesn't notice that you are out all day. So how can you complsin about a total lack of privacy.

I suspect that none of the other residents are the least bit interested in what you do with your life. They have just noticed you do not attend any social functions and just assume, without any investigation, that as the complex is full of retired people, if you are not socialising you must be sitting alone in your flat - which is clearly incorrect.

So relax, your privacy is complete, nobody is interested in you. Her remarks were mere airy persiflage when she happened to meet you. Sink back into your anonymity content to know that your alarms were unjustified.

Bella23 Wed 06-Sept-23 14:43:10

My neighbour is always trying to get me to go to P.E. classes.
They are all in their 80's and 90's and do it on a chair. I have also been invited to numerous coffee mornings and afternoon teas where the best china comes out on a trolley with cakes that have taken a week to bake.
I just say," Thanks I'll consider it when I have less to do".
I've had to get used to people watchers knowing my movements I've even had phone calls saying they heard I have got new Glasses!
Don't take it personally. They think they are looking after your welfare.

greenlady102 Wed 06-Sept-23 14:53:50

Its my experience that people judge people by their own experiences. I spent much of last year looking after my very old very worried dog. He was quite happy and ok round the house provided I was there but really could not cope if I went out so i didn't. My neighbour suffers badly with back pain so she assumed that my staying in was due to illness or disability and would frequently ask how I was and was there anything her husband could do for me. In fact i was busy gardening and DIY ing. I think your neighbour assumes that everyone who lives alone is lonely and needs to do what she does. It was the same when I was widowed. people would tell me what they or their friends had done and encourage me to do the same.

Hetty58 Wed 06-Sept-23 15:07:27

Some people are just very sociable and love being around others. Often, they like routine, too, so fill their days with all these clubs, meetings and entertainments. Yes, they would feel very lonely on their own all day.

I'm really not like that at all, never have been. I'm in my element just pottering around in the garden, walking the dog or reading a book. I think I'd only start to feel lonely if I hadn't seen a living soul in a week.

My friend simply can't understand why I don't want to join her for exercise classes, shopping - and all this 'wellness' and 'healing' stuff. I have zero interest in it all, that's why!

pascal30 Wed 06-Sept-23 15:08:09

she sounds quite kind and friendly to me. She didn't bombard you with personal questions.. You are obviously a very private person but you can also be courteous and just explain that you are busy during the day..

wildswan16 Wed 06-Sept-23 15:15:45

Why not just say " that sounds lovely, but I'm not usually free just now". I think you are over-reacting a little to a friendly gesture from a neighbour.

One day you might really need and welcome some neighbourly kindness.

welbeck Wed 06-Sept-23 15:31:46

agree with above.

Ziplok Wed 06-Sept-23 17:40:17

Is it “relentless, unwanted attention”? In your post you say you are out all day. I presume most days? Why not say this to your neighbour? If she hasn’t seen you coming and going then perhaps she’s assuming that you are sitting alone indoors all day and it’s her way of inviting you to join in so that you aren’t lonely. How relentless is she in asking you to join in if you’re out most days? It’s simply resolved though, just explain as you have here.

Georgesgran Wed 06-Sept-23 20:42:33

Hi FrankandEarnest

Just wondering if you have any thoughts on what comments GNs have made since you first posted?

sodapop Wed 06-Sept-23 21:29:47

Yet another thread with no response from the original poster. Wonder why we bother.

Ziplok Wed 06-Sept-23 21:36:13

I’m inclined to agree with you sodapop. However, there’s time yet for a reply, I suppose.

M0nica Wed 06-Sept-23 21:39:50

It does read very much like a 'have-on'. I wondered about that at the start, but I like to give these threads the benefit of the doubt.

Callistemon21 Wed 06-Sept-23 22:16:05

It sounds as if your neighbour is trying to be friendly and welcoming.

She can't be nosy or invading your privacy if she hasn't noticed you are out all day every day.

Callistemon21 Wed 06-Sept-23 22:20:58

I think FrankandEarnest does post on other threads too.

polnan Thu 07-Sept-23 12:00:46

oh gosh, I live in a small close, you would expect the area I live in to be a good place, but neighbours? what are they, guess they are mostly all out to work, that is the excuse I give them

I reckon if I dropped dead in the street, very few would care.. perhaps one or two.. but no neighbourness (?)neighbourlyness?lol
whatsoever.

Nannashirlz Thu 07-Sept-23 12:11:28

Trust me I’ve just moved having a neighbor from hell. If my neighbor was like her I wouldn’t have moved. She just being a caring neighbor. Not many like that nowadays. Where I now one of my neighbors was telling me about one of the other bungalows a lady lived in it and everyone tried to get to know her she also didn’t bother with anyone and just before Christmas she was found in her home. They said they were told she had died a month earlier. I find that quite sad to die alone. Like they say it’s good to talk