Whatever happened to 'ladylike'?

Ilovecheese

I hadn't noticed those pictures. I must read different publications.

Pictures of 'unladylike' females are all over the place. Here is Madonna's daughter Lourdes looking pretty darn awful in every way! You might think she is not typical but this type of look is seen more and more. Boundaries are being pushed. Women are being seen nearly naked all the time.

But madonna was doing that and more 30 years ago.

Jaxjacky

The vast majority of young women don’t sit as the OP mentioned, neither do they wear indiscreet clothing, have false eyelashes or pay for ‘body enhancing’ surgery. They go to college, work, raise their children and are generally part of society.
But, you don’t see them in the tabloids who are always trying to increase their readership by featuring the extremes. They seem to succeed sometimes, hence this thread.

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I often wonder what world some members inhabit. Actually scrub that. They inhabit a world where they believe that what they see on tv or online is representative of all young women.
Pathetic really.

I saw a Lady recently wearing sheer white trousers and her pants were clearly visible. She probably thought she looked lovely but I did not think it was a good look.

Aldom

As a fourteen year old, in the 1950's, I was running past the house of a neighbour. Mrs. West called me over. She told me to walk as running wasn't ladylike. Her advice has stayed with me all my life.

At the same age in the early 70s, my headmistress told me smoking in the street wasn't ladylike 🫢

Jaxjacky

The vast majority of young women don’t sit as the OP mentioned, neither do they wear indiscreet clothing, have false eyelashes or pay for ‘body enhancing’ surgery. They go to college, work, raise their children and are generally part of society.
But, you don’t see them in the tabloids who are always trying to increase their readership by featuring the extremes. They seem to succeed sometimes, hence this thread.

I am in total agreement with Jaxjacky.

I have teenage girl neighbours and a 16 year old grand daughter and these girls are no more representative of the teenage girls I see than Joan Collins is of the average 90 year old.

As for 'ladylike' I hope that the word has slipped into the mists of time. Its day is long past. It was a word that defined female behaviour that was repressed and controlled by older more senior women in society, to ensure they lived lives of submissive boredom.

There does seem to be an unwritten law that the fatter a person is, the more flesh they are inclined to display.

There have been some wonderful sights to behold during this current hot spell.

Not for me. I am all about covering up.😂. I would love to have bare arms but they are not a pretty sight!

Mollygo

Short skirts come round again. I remember my parents commenting on mine. What makes me laugh is girls in short skirts, constantly hitching them down at the back.
My Nan sent me to the library with a note asking for a book called Shorter Skirts, by Seymour Nicks. it wasn’t till I read it aloud that I got the joke.

I might try that on DGD1 😁

MerylStreep

Jaxjacky

The vast majority of young women don’t sit as the OP mentioned, neither do they wear indiscreet clothing, have false eyelashes or pay for ‘body enhancing’ surgery. They go to college, work, raise their children and are generally part of society.
But, you don’t see them in the tabloids who are always trying to increase their readership by featuring the extremes. They seem to succeed sometimes, hence this thread.

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I often wonder what world some members inhabit. Actually scrub that. They inhabit a world where they believe that what they see on tv or online is representative of all young women.
Pathetic really.

I think we all know that most young women don't dress or behave in extreme ways, although surely what is seen on TV and online does represent real people because the whole world is now accessible on our screens.

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Ilovecheese

I hadn't noticed those pictures. I must read different publications.

Pictures of 'unladylike' females are all over the place. Here is Madonna's daughter Lourdes looking pretty darn awful in every way! You might think she is not typical but this type of look is seen more and more. Boundaries are being pushed. Women are being seen nearly naked all the time.

She looks hideous!

Is that a net garment or tattoos?

We saw plenty of exposed tattooed flesh today and that was just in Morrisons!

not sure how Sam Heughan has managed to feature in this thread!

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nadateturbe

What about the tight leggings with thong showing. And shorts with cheeks showing.

Gross, no self respect any more. Let it all hang out, don't care what I look like. Audrey Hepburn would be horrified.

I don't recognise pictures like this OP, but I don't read magazines.
Young girls will wear what they want, as I'm sure we all did.
It's kind of nasty alluding to people's weight isn't it?
Saying a young girl looks hideous is a harmful thing to say.
Live and let live is what I say.
Although, I have to say, I did admire the chic style of Audrey Hepburn 🙂

So somebody can say I am pathetic, but if I reply that I think they are miserable, my post gets deleted.

I've had photos of various "celebrities" turning up on facebook with outfits and poses that mean I've seen almost as much of them as their gynaecologist. Another popular thing at the moment seems to be the bottoms of female volley ball players. Hopefully the girls don't read any of the comments. There seem to be a lot of sad men out there in their mothers' basements.

I'll amend my post as apparently my post is harmful to young girls. 🤔

Madonna's daughter looks lovely, just how I'd want my DD or DGD to look.
Actually no, she doesn't, pictures like that are a bad influence on young girls.

A very interesting thread.

Whether you think it's patriarchy or men oppressing women or not, the unvarnished truth is most decent men prefer women to dress and behave with decorum (at least in public). In other words to look and act like a lady.

And I think most women prefer their man to be a gentleman, rather than a boorish lout.

Behaving "like a lady" doesn't make you subservient or oppressed, quite the reverse, it sends out a clear signal that you have standards and values, that you have dignity and that you value your self worth.

Dressing and behaving "like a lady" tells people that you expect them to show courtesy and to treat you with respect.

My grandmother used to say that "a lady is a woman in whose presence a man becomes a gentleman".

But then she was born in the late Victorian era.

biglouis

My grandmother used to say that "a lady is a woman in whose presence a man becomes a gentleman".

But then she was born in the late Victorian era.

I love that quote and I'd say it is really true. Men do adjust their behaviour according to the company they're in. When amongst friends or maybe close family they can relax and do what comes naturally. But with ladies they don't know so well, or who are older they can be very different, no swearing at all and even table manners make an appearance. I remember the men were all as good as gold when my mother was around. She wasn't an ogre, just a lady.

Well there were hundreds of girls in the city last week going to the sixth form an an awful lot of them were the opposite of discreet. You wouldn't have thought that they were going to an establishment of learning. I was sent home from college for wearing trousers!

Well, Madonna’s daughter looks as miserable as sin!

What a mardy, ‘don’t want to be here’ expression.

Why not a lovely open smile? Why do they all have to look so cross and disagreeable?

Far worse when it is older people baring flesh, wrinkled skin, white veiny legs, saggy arms and a crinkly cleavage. I see more older people looking bad than I do younger people.

My standards really slip in a heatwave, too - as I want to be comfortable. My 'going out' linen trousers and cotton blouse are hanging on the door. As soon as I'm home, it's shorts and a vest, nothing else, but at least I don't appear in public like that.