The Police, what's the point of them?

BlueBelle

*If a cyclist loses their bike l don't want my tax spent on getting it back*
What a horrible thing to say it may be the only way that person can get to and from work and as valuable to them as a car is to others

It was apparently £36000 worth of bicycles. I'm not sure if they used any of them to get to work but they should have been in secure storage and insured, they'd then be recompensed. If they had that worth of bicycles l reckon they'd be able to afford to get to work somehow or afford tracking devices/companies rather than an extremely overstretched police force to investigate.

I don’t know where you are Sharina, but in London a mobile phone is reported stolen every six minutes. It’s totally impossible for the police to investigate such thefts.

Let's just hope Nicenanny3 is never involved in a RTC where the police are first on scene to give first aid / scrape you off the road / break the news to you loved ones or you have mental health issues and need talking down from that bridge or just imply go missing - just who do you think would look for you? Hopefully you'll never be involved in something like the London Bridge attack where police run towards danger. Perhaps you'll be lucky enough to never experience knife crime or have to deal with local drug dealers preying on your grandchrildren!

Is it open season on bashing the police, most of whom are decent honest individuals fighting crime with insufficient resource and other priorities which shouldn't be thiers?

Well said vintage. 👏👏👏

The point of The Police is Sting, mainly (hmm)

Just another example of another service that has gone to pot. They should have sufficient resources to investigate all crimes but obviously have not. Until we're all happy to pay more for such services (like the NHS) then things are unlikely to improve imo.

The police should investigate all crime otherwise what’s the point in them? More and more insurance policies, including home insurance, have a no claims clause so if you do claim the premiums go up. Allowing criminals to get off Scot free without investigation is a disaster in the making. My husband was assaulted last Christmas. We have a video of the thug admitting he did it, and we had to turn detective to find where he lives. Yet no action has been taken. We have a drug dealer near us and in spite of people doing what the police said to do (ie keep dates/times/descriptions/ car registration numbers no action is ever taken. He deals to under age kids outside a school. Drug dealing, assault, burglaries, vandalism, wildlife crime, shop lifting, fraud - no action is taken so we’re sitting ducks. I’d like to know exactly what do they do?? Our police station doesn’t appear to be understaffed a fact supported by a serving officer neighbour. Yet try and prevent crime and we get into trouble!

vintageclassics

Obviously don't be ridiculous I'm talking about everyday crimes, burglary, robbery, shop lifting where the police are not interested. Actually London and other big cities are like the wild west, youths/men run riot with knives and machetes and drug dealing is rampant. Let's hope your not involved in an RTC either.

So you expect the Met to investigate the mobile phone thefts reported every six minutes ?

Thank you vintage

It’s untrue to print a crime is committed, you phone 999 and the police don’t want to know, they’re about as much use as a chocolate teapot
The idea we don’t want compassionate policing, we want them tough on crime is another bit of idiocy. My father did 33 years, retiring from a senior position. He was kind, compassionate, no push over, believed the law was necessary, and should be obeyed.
The police force mirrors the society it serves. It’s also not the job of officers to be “tough on crime”. Their job is to enforce the law

Years ago I think people were happier when policemen were very visible ‘on the beat’ and there was always a local police station you could go to for help. I think it is a cop-out to say just claim on the insurance for stolen items. Re the bikes, I was surprised at the lack of action as I have always had the impression the police take action when something really valuable is stolen, such as Tamara Ecclestone’s jewellery, or when wealthy Fred Goodwin of the RBS had his windows smashed at his Edinburgh house. They don’t seem to bother if it is a regular person getting their car vandalised, for example. I speak from experience of the latter.

There is often a lack of admissible evidence. Without that, what are the police expected to do? Conjure it up out of thin air?

Incidentally the value of the bikes isn’t exactly comparable to that of Tamara Ecclestone’s jewels.

The Police Force have had many cuts. Thanks to the Tories.
They can't be everywhere at once.
They can't be dealing with a stolen bike whilst dealing with a rape. That's the way it is now.

Our large area had one car available. It was ten miles away when my neighbour phoned after thieves drilled a hole in his garage roof to steal his tools, the doors and windows too secure for them

My DH was a police officer and he worried that if there were 2 or 3 serious incidents happening at once in the city he worked in they would only be able to attend one.
Police numbers have been drastically cut by government and the police have to bear the anger of the public when they are unable to help when anger should be directed to those who have created this problem.
Most police officers do their best and believe me it is a horrible job.
I used to wonder when DH left for work if he would return home and a few times he didn't ending up in hospital while doing his job.
As others have said complain to your MPs and don't blame the police.

Kate1949

I'm sure the police have better things to do than bother with stolen bikes, whatever they are worth. The cyclist wasn't forced to spend £6000. It was his choice to do so.

nice bit of victim blaming. So, if a burglar breaks into your house, and steals your flat screen Tv, your Mother's diamond ring, your treasured and saved up for piece of art.....is that your fault for having it?

The bikes are unlikely to be unique or of sentimental value such as the diamond ring or artwork you describe HPQ. They should have been insured and securely locked up. The insurers would then have paid for replacements. Wouldn’t any sane person claim on the insurance rather than getting a drone, hiring a private investigator and travelling to Poland? Obviously they either weren’t insured or the insurance conditions (such as keeping them locked up probably) hadn’t been met. The police are better employed in catching dangerous, armed criminals than finding replaceable items. Lives can’t be replaced.

Essex police chief whose force raided pub on suspicion of 'hate crimes' for having golliwog dolls behind bar has 'no 'regrets' despite CPS later dropping the case (Daily Mail)

They sent 6 police officers to seize the golliwogs. The golliwogs had been on display for 10 years landlady said. Pub now closed. Essex police chief had no regrets, you couldn't make it up could you, a good use of 6 policemens time I don’t think so.

My son in law is in the police and is run off his feet and totally done in with the job it's making him ill. His rest days and holidays are cancelled regularly to help cover. There are NOT ENOUGH police officers and the ones who are there are getting the brunt of it!!!! Did you ever think of that scenario?? No you prefer to moan and undermine the officers who are trying their best. Just continue with your little blinkered view on life.

Nicenanny3

Essex police chief whose force raided pub on suspicion of 'hate crimes' for having golliwog dolls behind bar has 'no 'regrets' despite CPS later dropping the case (Daily Mail)

They sent 6 police officers to seize the golliwogs. The golliwogs had been on display for 10 years landlady said. Pub now closed. Essex police chief had no regrets, you couldn't make it up could you, a good use of 6 policemens time I don’t think so.

Another Daily Mail "story." They are intent on discrediting the police. If this story is true then the order for a raid on gollywogs will have come from much higher up than the police.

vintageclassics

Let's just hope Nicenanny3 is never involved in a RTC where the police are first on scene to give first aid / scrape you off the road / break the news to you loved ones or you have mental health issues and need talking down from that bridge or just imply go missing - just who do you think would look for you? Hopefully you'll never be involved in something like the London Bridge attack where police run towards danger. Perhaps you'll be lucky enough to never experience knife crime or have to deal with local drug dealers preying on your grandchrildren!

Is it open season on bashing the police, most of whom are decent honest individuals fighting crime with insufficient resource and other priorities which shouldn't be thiers?

Thank you vintage

My son has scraped people off the road several times and had to search the verges for missing body parts for one accident. He's been spat at, sworn at and almost missed his wedding after being hit by a brick during a riot.

He is forever being sent on diversity training to be told what the latest thinking is on what he is allowed to say and what not.

He doesn't think "I wont attend that crime but go to that one instead" He has to go where he is told. They used to be sent out in twos but invariably he is on his own as there are not enough officers

He is a kind caring person just doing his best and his health and marriage has suffered because of it

I think it's a fine to discuss issues that relate to policing, as it is fine to discuss issues relating to any profession. I dont think that should really be seen as an attack on individuals. I have worked within childrens services for most of my career and am happy for people to discuss issues relating to that sector. So for example we sonetimes get things wrong for children with autism it's not a personal attack for people to discuss that.

Nicenanny3

They don't respond to burglary, they don't respond to shoplifting if its under £200, although they do respond to hate crimes when there is actually no crime. Don’t get me wrong I want a strong efficient police force, I want zero tolerance on knife crimes but what have we got a lot of namby pambies frightened of their own shadows, kneeling to BLM and waving raimbow flags.

This was something of a personal attack Galaxy. Very unpleasant.

So police being called 'namby pambies' isn't personal?