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Larman50 Thu 19-Oct-23 12:58:49

I have a lodger that moved in at the begining of September . So far he has not washed any bedding (he uses his own which are very tatty) he keeps stale food and plates etc in his room and the bed is literally covered in dirty clothes as he never used the washing machine . When he opens the door his room smells ! . I am used to having lodgers but think this one is dirty . How shall I ask him to leave without causing too much offence as I have to live with him for the duration of the notice . Any ideas welcome

greenlady102 Thu 19-Oct-23 13:02:02

tell him you have got a relative coming to use the room? Although i'd be inclined to be clear why you are terminiating his rental.

ExDancer Thu 19-Oct-23 13:05:55

Give him the address (or better still a business card) of the nearest laundry shop?
Do you have access to his room as a part of your letting agreement?
You do have a legal letting agreement don't you? If not, see a solicitor and get him to sign one.

ExDancer Thu 19-Oct-23 13:11:06

www.rocketlawyer.com/gb/en/sem/room-rental-agreement?

I'm in no way recommending these people, but send the link to show that
there are such legalities available.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 19-Oct-23 13:35:16

Don’t use this. It is not the type of agreement you need for a lodger.

Theexwife Thu 19-Oct-23 13:39:57

lodgers have rights so you cannot just ask him to leave, how long was his lease initially? How much notice was in the agreement? His lease will not state how often he has to wash his bedding and his and your levels of cleanliness may differ.

You have to be careful to follow the laws regarding this or you could find yourself severely out of pocket or he may be allowed to stay for the whole of his lease.

Grannynannywanny Thu 19-Oct-23 13:49:32

If he’s allowed to use your washing machine maybe you could suggest nicely to him to just ask if he needs help with the operating instructions. It might be enough of a gentle nudge to get him moving in the right direction.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 19-Oct-23 14:16:21

Lodgers don’t have leases. They have licence agreements. They are not tenants.

M0nica Thu 19-Oct-23 14:20:17

Go and talk to Citizen's Advice.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 19-Oct-23 14:47:08

He’s obviously content to have dirty clothes and bedding and unwashed dishes and stale food in his room. Just give him notice as per your agreement or the frequency with which he pays you. No need for all the scaremongering about tenancies and rights.

Nannarose Thu 19-Oct-23 15:28:18

I agree with GSM. If you start getting into conversations about his general lifestyle and hygiene, it will all get a bit complicated, and you really don't want that!
Take a deep breath (away from his room) and put up with it for the notice period. You obviously don't have to give any reason, but if it makes it easier, you can vaguely say that you need the use of the room for a while.

JaneJudge Thu 19-Oct-23 16:38:23

Just give him notice to leave. You don't need to give a reason do you?

Nannan2 Sat 21-Oct-23 11:32:57

Larman50- that sounds like my 20 year olds room!😂

Stillstanding Sat 21-Oct-23 11:41:31

I have had many lodgers and most are a joy but there have been a few I have had to get rid of.

Just give 7 days written notice telling him very clearly why you want him out. Tell him so clearly that if he takes the letter to the Citizens Advice people or anyone else he will be caused embarrassment.,

You may be asked why you have not said anything before and so that is why you must act very fast. Its because you are too English.

Be polite; yes; but dont be too English. Dont apologise.. Dont make fake excuses.

I once told a lodger that that her ways were so bad that if she left immediately I would refund the last months rent she had paid and refund her deposit.. She did. I was so relieved I gave her a badly written cheque that she had to come back about twice. She said that was very annoying. I just laughed in her face.

Having said that I have had lodgers who are so clean and quiet and polite I have let them off rent for the Christmas week or when they go on holiday and had their relatives to stay from all over the world. It has been more pleasure than torment.

4allweknow Sat 21-Oct-23 11:50:26

Surprised lodgers are thought as having leases on a room. If a lease holder on say, a flat, is concerned about the hygiene of the premises surely they have rights to enter to inspect and request a clean up. To me a lodger is just using a room for sleeping, takes part in meals provided to them, with cleaning undertaken by the householder. My DM had lodgers for years, when did lodgers start to have near tenant's rights.

Gillycats Sat 21-Oct-23 11:52:33

We have the same problem currently. Dirtiest lodge we’ve ever had. I’ve gently asked him to make sure he’s not got any rubbish/recycling/food lying about. I’ve been careful to be tactful and polite but nothing has changed. So I’ve now got to be more direct. In my experience they don’t like to be told to be clean, and you may risk losing them, but there’s no excuse for being dirty. They will shape up or ship out pretty quick.

deedeedum Sat 21-Oct-23 11:56:42

As a live in landlord, he has no "rights", you can pack his case and leave it on the doorstep. However, tell him straight about the issues you have and see what his response is.

JdotJ Sat 21-Oct-23 12:17:50

Say you've seen rats

biglouis Sat 21-Oct-23 13:02:06

Lodgers don’t have leases. They have licence agreements. They are not tenants

This is true. Lodgers have very few rights. You can however download a lodger contract from the internet and use that.

You can give them notice for any reason or no reason. So long as you do not appear to be discriminating over a "protected characteristic" such as age, disability, etc.

You should give your lodger whatever notice you agreed upon when they moved in. Its up to you whether you tell them a fib (relative coming and you need the room) or the real reason. I notice you mention an uncomfortable wait while they serve out their notice. If the lodger is male and you are a lone female you might feel more comfortable using the "visiting relative" excuse. Just saying.

biglouis Sat 21-Oct-23 13:09:15

He’s obviously content to have dirty clothes and bedding and unwashed dishes and stale food in his room. Just give him notice as per your agreement or the frequency with which he pays you. No need for all the scaremongering about tenancies and rights

Agree with GSM here. Even landlords of legal tenangs with a contract cannot dictate how their tenants choose to live - unless their lifestyle is likely to attract vermin or damage the property in some way. Evicting a tenant is a very lengthy and expensive process for landlords and can currently take a year or more.

Gundy Sat 21-Oct-23 14:51:41

Well, I don’t see any problem here - just EVICT him. He’s become a health hazard!
And what he leaves behind in his unhealthfulness (bed bugs?) may make it hard for you to rent again.

Check your local laws and see if you only need 30 days notice to vacate - or 60 days. If he refuses your local law authority can come in and remove his stuff - even if he’s gone, they’ll put his junk on the road or driveway.

It seems kind of drastic but it happens when people don’t comply with landlords. I think you said you have a “contract” with him? Hope it’s in writing.
Good luck!
USA Gundy

welbeck Sat 21-Oct-23 14:57:52

as far as i know, from when i was a lodger, if he pays weekly, you can tell him to be out in a week's time.
no reason needed.
don't prolong it.
least said the better.

HeavenLeigh Sat 21-Oct-23 19:25:18

Oh yuk! Sounds disgusting! Like you I’d want the room back. I’d give him notice to leave. Good luck op

lemsip Sat 21-Oct-23 19:51:14

tell him in no uncertain terms that he has to 'shape up' and keep everything clean.. give him a chance! to week tria. then out if not done.

Cabbie21 Sat 21-Oct-23 19:59:44

I wouldn’t even give him a warning and a week’s “trial”. It could make things more awkward.
The only right to notice he has relates to how often he pays, which would normally be a week or a month, depending on what was agreed. If he refuses to leave at the end of the period, you can put his stuff outside and change the locks.