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Being called a 'Guy'

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Mazgg Fri 20-Oct-23 11:38:00

I have noticed recently when out with a male friend waiters (in several establishments) ask "What can I get you guys".
We are both in our 80s and it seems comical to be classed as Guys. When with a female friend it's usually Ladies, which is fine. What's wrong with just asking "what can I get you" with a smile?
Oh dear, now I sound like a grumpy old woman!

Buffy Wed 25-Oct-23 22:17:13

My builder shows no respect. At my age I’d like to be called Mrs ……. Instead of which he greets me with ‘All right mate.’

Nannina Wed 25-Oct-23 22:12:08

When I was working our team leader took to sending group emails addressed ‘ hi guys’, ‘ morning guys’ and expected a response or acknowledgment. I didn’t respond and she’d ask me why- my response was ‘the last time I looked I was a gal so I didn’t think the message was for me’. Our emails then came headed ‘morning team’, sometimes you’ve just got to make your point 😀

Mogsmaw Wed 25-Oct-23 22:01:44

ReadyMeals

As a transgender person myself I'd rather be lumped in as "guys" than have someone assume and get it wrong, to everyone's discomfort. Though I'd be just as happy with "hello people" if "guys" sounds to male-leaning for some.

I read your post with interest .
Do you think it’s right that “guys” is used because you see it as gender neutral so ok even if a group eg women , find it offensive.
I’m just asking you, not being confrontational, I’m just curious.

NotSpaghetti Wed 25-Oct-23 21:51:53

0ddOne
Not sure if you noticed but this is only a "chat" thread. grin
Nobody is worrying - we are just ^chatting.

Goldieoldie15 Wed 25-Oct-23 21:40:59

Can’t abide it. Worse still I find when I’m told : sit here for me my lovely. Usually uttered by some health semi professional or a hairdresser. Makes my skin crawl.

Seakay Wed 25-Oct-23 21:01:10

I've been using "guys" as a gender neutral term since the 1990s.

I only accept "Ladies" when used in certain and specific circumstances by women - otherwise it has too many disturbing 1970s connotations for me. Ditto "Girls".

Retired65 Wed 25-Oct-23 20:50:26

I hate being called a guy. It is 'slang'. Unfortunately a lot of people use the word.

0ddOne Wed 25-Oct-23 20:13:42

Dickens I think we have a different definition of the word "interesting"..... grin

0ddOne Wed 25-Oct-23 20:09:11

RosiesMaw

I really feel I have other things to worry me and actually find “guys” preferable to the slightly patronising “ladies”.
But each to their own.
Why do people get so uptight about trivialities?
“Can I get” as opposed to “May I have” for instance , so what?
We’re not all Victor Meldrew clones.
Lighten up, maybe?

Couldn't agree with you more!! If that's all people have to worry about then life is good! I do wonder why people feel the need to moan about absolutely everything!? Lighten up, life is short, make it worth living, chill out and be happy! smile

Kathmaggie Wed 25-Oct-23 19:14:02

Sorry - young goat not donkey 😂

Buttonjugs Wed 25-Oct-23 19:04:39

When my granddaughters play online games with their friends all I hear is ‘guys’ ‘you guys’ and they are all girls. I guess we’re stuck with it now.

Kathmaggie Wed 25-Oct-23 18:51:00

Being referred to as a guy used to really annoy me - it’s here to stay I’m afraid, just have to accept it! I still struggle with children being called kids maybe that’s me but can’t bring myself to call my small grandchildren young donkeys 😁

Missiseff Wed 25-Oct-23 18:43:24

Hate it

Yorkslass23 Wed 25-Oct-23 18:09:50

No! You do not sound like a 'grumpy old woman.' I feel the same. It is classic Americanization of Britain. I saw it coming. It is sad. (Remember, we never celebrated Halloween - American/Canadian custom. I live in Canada, am a proud Britain. I'm only here for my children. We get referred to as "guys' too. I don't like it. We from another generation know the courtesies of respect, but we also put up with gender discriminated, but we did not know it. If someone calls me 'Pat' I say it's Patricia. If they call me a guy, I say, "it's the Lady Patricia to you"..or something like. It's my sense of play and humour why I tell them that. Sorry, I am belabouring this topic (as I do). I do also take exception to business people calling me by my first name. It was always Miss, Mrs. or Mr. in our younger days. Here, they finally caught on. When I call a bank they ask, "may I us your first or last name? or "how do you like to be addressed?" It's tough living in this era, isn't it? Especially as we are moving into the true age of Aquarius. The English language has has been bent in all directions in a country where there are so many using English as a second language.

Cambsnan Wed 25-Oct-23 18:06:33

I think it is a mine field for waiting staff. As long as they are not patronising and say it with a smile I accept most names.

DrWatson Wed 25-Oct-23 17:41:15

As several have said, it's just a fad. No real point getting stroppy about it. I'd guess it's usually said by waiters/resses and maybe bar folk, and there are alternatives, but it's easier to just go with the flow?

reelashosser Wed 25-Oct-23 17:32:47

I enjoy being called "guys", - at 81 and a carer, I feel I am excluded from much of modern life, and am happy as long as people are being as friendly and helpful to me as I try to be to everyone.

I don't want to be too set in my ways, and don't feel the need for people to be over-respectful to me, just friendly.

JudyBloom Wed 25-Oct-23 16:52:25

I don't care for the expression'you guys'. I just happened to be old fashioned.

Mogsmaw Wed 25-Oct-23 16:15:34

I don’t like it but I’ve never fretted too much about it till recently.
I have become more and more annoyed by the sanctimonious and hypocritical attitude of the young. Every utterance has to be considered lest someone is offended. It’s often taking offence on behalf of “others”.
I’ve been accused of homophobia because I stumbled into a pride picture, body shaming a cartoon cat. Incidentally, called “chubby cat”.and my life experiences are unacceptable because how my disability was treated in my past is now not acceptable. So I’m apparently guilty of disability discrimination against myself!
In the mist of all this madness I think I can claim that being called a “guy” is misgendering but I’m sure I’ll just be told I’ve misunderstood the meaning.
Or perhaps they do mean GUY :- the butt of the joke.

Hithere Wed 25-Oct-23 16:00:18

Dolls?

Noooooo, no way

Chestnut Wed 25-Oct-23 15:57:53

'Guy' is just the modern word for 'people' so we need to accept that.

Suzey Wed 25-Oct-23 15:47:07

Can't stand it I find it insulting

springishere Wed 25-Oct-23 15:45:48

Whatever happened to all the dolls? As in "Guys and Dolls".

Treetops05 Wed 25-Oct-23 15:42:11

We both have a hospitality background, of the Sir and Madam type. My husband points out if called guys that one is definitely not a guy, and he prefers gentleman or sir...I dread it, but agree I'm not a guy.

ReadyMeals Wed 25-Oct-23 14:53:32

As a transgender person myself I'd rather be lumped in as "guys" than have someone assume and get it wrong, to everyone's discomfort. Though I'd be just as happy with "hello people" if "guys" sounds to male-leaning for some.