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Kitchen Makeover. A mess. Where do I stand with the Company?

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Pippins6133 Sat 04-Nov-23 17:39:21

My Kitchen Makeover started on 26.9.23 to have new worktops, cupboard doors and sink. I was told that it would take a week to complete (although the Company advertise 2 - 3 days). It's still not finished and there have been various issues.
The first day, the fitter damaged the worktop. A few days later, he dented the new sink. The tap is incorrectly fitted. Some cupboard doors don't fit as they were measured incorrectly/too small and there are gaps all around the doors - the fitter tried to botch them up to try to make them fit but agreed that they were too small and new, correctly sized doors should be ordered and told the owner this. The plinth beneath the oven popped off as we opened the oven door for the first time. There are a couple of small dents in two doors and a few other bits and bobs that need sorting out.
We paid half of the monies at the start and we were to pay the other half on completion, as agreed in the contract. The owner (a franchisee) of the nationwide company, is saying that the cupboard doors that are too small "look fine" (he hasn't seen them in person, he's only seen a photo that the fitter sent him to show how small they were and has never been to inspect the kitchen.) A few days ago, the owner Whatsapped me to say that the kitchen is finished and wants the full amount paying now. I told him that it is not finished and he needs to come and look. I made him aware of all the issues, as they occurred, and he said that they would be dealt with but, so far, only the damaged worktop has been 'repaired' (not really to my satisfaction.)
We've had a quite a few Whatsapps between us over the past few days - first he said that he wants the balance of the monies. I told him that I will not be paying any more until the kitchen is finished and repaired. He then Whatsapped to say that, if I pay 75% of the balance due, he would come and take a look. I am not paying any more until the kitchen is completed. He promised so much at the start but I don't trust him anymore. I'm so upset and full of anxiety. I just don't feel like putting my kitchen items away. I've been living amongst boxes for 40 days. Is this reasonable? I'm in limbo. He refuses to come and inspect until at least 75% of the balance is paid (at one point, he said 100%. Confused.). Any advice ladies? Thankyou.

Mollygo Sat 04-Nov-23 17:47:54

How dreadful for you, the stress on top of all the mess. I agree about not paying out anything more. Maybe some other posters on here, will have the best official route to go down.
If it’s a firm, who has an X (Twitter) account, my usual recourse, which has worked with the gas board, the people who laid our drive and a furniture firm is to tweet about what is going on and the lack of support I’ve received. FB comments work, but not as well.
I hope you get something sorted, quickly.

MaizieD Sat 04-Nov-23 17:54:25

Perhaps your local Trading Standards officer would be interested in this bodged job?

I would contact them for advice.

I certainly wouldn't pay out any more money...

Cabbie21 Sat 04-Nov-23 18:03:11

None of the advice on the relevant Citizens Advice page quite fits your scenario, so I suggest you ring their Consumer helpline on Monday. 0808 273 1133.

M0nica Sat 04-Nov-23 19:12:56

Definitely contact Trading Standards, and, most importantly tell your supplier that you have done so.

If he is a franchisee, contact the head office, tell them what has happened, tell them you have contacted Trading Standards and say that if it is not put right you will be posting on review sites just how bad your experience has been, but most of all, DO NOT PAY THEM ANOTHER PENNY, until the job is done to your satisfaction.

Doodledog Sat 04-Nov-23 19:19:23

Oh, how disappointing. I am getting mine done (similar works) in a couple of weeks, and am really looking forward to it being finished so I can imagine how you must be feeling.

I would tell him that you are going to the small claims court, and also detail every stage of the progress of your claim on your local Facebook page. It doesn't matter if you don't have a FB account, the threat might be enough. You can file a small claim if the total is £10,000 or less, I think. I've never done it, but understand that it is a simple process.

Good luck.

Pippins6133 Sat 04-Nov-23 20:53:10

Thank you for your helpful replies so far. Doodledog I hope all goes very well.

nadateturbe Sat 04-Nov-23 21:01:03

www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/make-claim

nadateturbe Sat 04-Nov-23 21:01:50

Don't pay any more.

Dinahmo Sat 04-Nov-23 21:01:57

Doodledog

Oh, how disappointing. I am getting mine done (similar works) in a couple of weeks, and am really looking forward to it being finished so I can imagine how you must be feeling.

I would tell him that you are going to the small claims court, and also detail every stage of the progress of your claim on your local Facebook page. It doesn't matter if you don't have a FB account, the threat might be enough. You can file a small claim if the total is £10,000 or less, I think. I've never done it, but understand that it is a simple process.

Good luck.

Not necessarily. Several years ago my DH in his car was reversed into by another car. The driver was uninsured. Small claims court - driver didn't turn up. DH awarded costs etc. Turned out the driver lived in rented accommodation with his mother and step father. He had no assets. Everything in their home belonged to the parents. My DH could have hired a bailiff but that would have been throwing good money after bad.

Prior to that I took a former client to the small claims court. The company had folded and he transferred the assets. I had no recourse. This is back in the days when the maximum was £600.

nadateturbe Sat 04-Nov-23 21:03:52

Just a thought, the threat of a court claim may make him fix it.

Callistemon21 Sat 04-Nov-23 21:09:28

Don't pay any more and contact Trading Standards.

Good luck Pippins.

Doodledog Sat 04-Nov-23 21:13:36

Pippins6133

Thank you for your helpful replies so far. Doodledog I hope all goes very well.

Thanks. Do let us know how you get on?

If you haven't already paid them more than £10k the small claims court is worth a try - again, the threat might be enough to galvanise them. I agree that you shouldn't pay them any more until you are satisfied.

MayBee70 Sat 04-Nov-23 21:33:52

I’ve often found that bad publicity is a good weapon to use. And, in the past have written to problem pages in national newspapers. When my daughters new car was damaged by some roadworks and had to be re sprayed we wrote to the Observer and the matter was resolved. Many years ago I used a local paper when I had a cowboy job done on some brickwork; the company had advertised in the paper. They refunded my money and I had the job done properly be someone else. DH tells me that The Times have a page called Money page/troubleshooter, the person who investigates these problems is called Catherine Dunham. Might be worth contacting her.

Doodledog Sat 04-Nov-23 22:19:52

Local FB pages reach far more potential customers than a national paper though. And if they make a habit of poor customer service others will join in to back you up.

TerriT Sat 04-Nov-23 22:23:09

My daughter bought some tickets to the u.s.a. Some years ago through a travel company. They started changeing dates and times etc and said this was the only dates the tickets were now valid for. My daughter got in touch with radio 4 you and yours and they were very keen to get her on the radio. When she e mailed the ticket company and told them this was going to happen on national radio they couldn’t sort out the matter fast enough. She also did the Twitter thing however you do that. Maybe if you have adult children or a neighbour who uses Twitter to do it. DO NOT PAY ANOTHER PENNY though.

Quokka Sat 04-Nov-23 22:32:06

MaizieD

Perhaps your local Trading Standards officer would be interested in this bodged job?

I would contact them for advice.

I certainly wouldn't pay out any more money...

I had a similar issue and Trading Standards were very helpful.

FindingNemo15 Sat 04-Nov-23 22:35:37

Years ago we took a double glazing company to small claims court as they took our money, but never supplied and fitted our front door.

We won our case, but to this day we never got our money as the company in question went into administration. Almost immediately they set up under a very similar name.

Greyisnotmycolour Sat 04-Nov-23 22:42:16

We have previously had two successes through small claims, one was against a national d-i-y store which I was advised was a waste of time. Trust Pilot is also brilliant for getting results if the company is registered with them. It seems that companies that use the site actually read the reviews and respond to them. I have a few issues resolved this way. Your kitchen sounds awful, do not pay them another penny. I hope you get it fixed up soon.

Shinamae Sat 04-Nov-23 22:47:58

What an absolute nightmare for you, but there are some really good suggestions on here. I wish you luck….

MayBee70 Sat 04-Nov-23 22:49:17

Doodledog

Local FB pages reach far more potential customers than a national paper though. And if they make a habit of poor customer service others will join in to back you up.

It isn’t just a case of getting a letter published, though. The newspaper does liase with the dodgy company.

Doodledog Sat 04-Nov-23 23:11:30

Good point. The OP could go in all guns blazing and threaten them with it all.

Grandmafrench Sat 04-Nov-23 23:42:18

As most have suggested, don’t hand over another penny!
If necessary, consider that the money that you have paid was wasted and you have nothing to show for it - that should focus your mind on holding on to the balance he says is due. For all you know, he may have no intention of trying to resolve the damage caused since he is only willing to argue over work he won’t come to inspect. .

Tell him no visit, no completion, no more money. You’ll probably need that money and more to employ a reputable tradesman. Give him 7 days to complete the work to your satisfaction and before you take further action. You’ll soon find out if he’s ‘all mouth and trousers’, but at least you won’t have thrown away any more money.

Good luck and don’t be anxious.

cornergran Sun 05-Nov-23 00:25:17

A problem with a fitted kitchen was well and truly stuck between us and the supplier. I used the free Resolver service which led to the eventual involvement by the furniture ombudsman as the complaint was about a cupboard fitting. All I needed to provide was detail from the installation paperwork. The totally disinterested supplier suddenly became very approachable and in essence we achieved what we set out to. In fact a little more. I’m not sure if it’s an appropriate route in your case but might be worth checking

It’s also worth checking if the franchisee advertise themselves as a member of a trade association, if so some associations will mediate.

Totally agree with others. Don’t give the franchisee a penny more. Trading Standards, the CAB or any advice organisation local to you are certainly worth talking to. Also negative comment, as long as you stick to accurate facts, via any social media platform.

Good luck, be strong and please keep in touch. We’ll support you all the way.

Pippins6133 Sun 05-Nov-23 19:47:20

Thanks you so much, everyone. I'm so grateful for your replies. I will let you know what happens.