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RosiesMaw Wed 20-Dec-23 11:48:18

Never mind teenage/hormonal/menopausal mood swings!
Perhaps it’s being on my own now, but I find I can wake up quite teary with a huge black cloud over my head, possibly originating in something sad in the news or (whisper it) on Gransnet and just can’t shake it off.
Then, something like a phone call or email out of the blue, or a friendly word from the postie, lifts me out of it and I feel able to face life again.
Possibly overthinking this, but I do worry about what if that didn’t happen? If nobody rang or exchanged a cheerful word one day?
There must be many people in a similar boat.
Do you have a strategy to lift yourself out of the doldrums?

J52 Thu 21-Dec-23 12:27:09

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J52 Sol Invictus

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Thank you, what a beautiful song. As a singer I really appreciated it.

bluebird243 Thu 21-Dec-23 14:13:33

It's hard to keep spirits up in these wet, grey days. I've seen about 5 rays of sun in the last couple of weeks. Motivation can be low especially if something is upsetting in the background [family/money/health worries].

I'm on my own, family grown and very busy, very few friends and have to find the motivation to keep my home, life, mental and physical health ticking long nicely.

I rely on routine and making a plan for the day before I get up. I get up at a set time, like it or not, but before that I think things through [life/how I'm feeling, what bills to see to etc.]. I meditate for a bit, and also count my blessings, maybe review a vivid dream. There is always a task to see to when I'm up and about ...after a cuppa and a biscuit, this is essential.

For me, to plan the day [usually according to the weather] is the key. Even if it's just to plan where to go for a walk, to get a wash load done, an e mail to write, a book to read, shopping to do, some decorating, some gardening, a drive, trip to a local village...just to keep busy in that day. Then to enjoy leisure time/a hobby I have and enjoy each meal during that day.

If I can enjoy the days in small ways I feel ok. It's when I drift with no plan, not sure what to do that I feel out of kilter and prone to my spirit dipping. But soon the nights will get lighter and I'm so happy when December is out of the way.

HelterSkelter1 Thu 21-Dec-23 14:18:39

Shortest day today.....hooray. Tomorrow can only get better!

RosiesMaw Thu 21-Dec-23 14:18:47

Thank you for all the kind messages on my self-pitying post about being down in the dumps. I have given my head a bit of a wobble, pulled myself together and been out for coffee and indulgent cake with a good friend.
Actually this last is I am sure what has helped the most.
The fear of appearing needy or risking rejection is often what stops those of us on our own from being more proactive in socialising
It only takes a No to set you right back, but with that in mind I will take the initiative more often instead of waiting for contact.
So if I haven’t replied to your DM’s individually yet, it’s not that I am ungrateful. While I am sorry that anybody shares how I was feeling, it is comforting to know we are not alone.
Thank you 🙏

Blossoming Thu 21-Dec-23 14:24:32

I’m glad you’re feeling more positive today Maw, I think this is a difficult time of year for many of us and it holds sad memories for you. flowers

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 21-Dec-23 14:31:20

So pleased to know that things are better today. Cake and a chinwag are good medicine!

keepcalmandcavachon Thu 21-Dec-23 14:38:25

Glad you are feeling better today RosiesMaw, this season can exaggerate everything, hope you and Rosie have a good weekflowers

Norah Thu 21-Dec-23 14:40:19

RosiesMaw The fear of appearing needy or risking rejection is often what stops those of us on our own from being more proactive in socialising
It only takes a No to set you right back, but with that in mind I will take the initiative more often instead of waiting for contact.

My new sister-in-law told me was a widow for a few years, had decided she needed more socialising, met my brother at a regular gathering of her friends. He'd recently retired and moved home and was only invited because one of the group is friends with our similar age eldest daughter.

Sister-in-law took initiative at the gathering, offered him her mobile number. Not lost on us - she was very proactive and is happy.

Kim19 Thu 21-Dec-23 14:46:21

I'm fortunate enough to live near a beautiful river and a daily walk along its banks is decidedly uplifting when regularly waking to a vision of grey dampness through the morning window It's a shorter meander in the inclement weather because it can be difficult underfoot but in the better weather I upgrade to a sprightly pace. Hallelujah for shortest day tomorrow! An absolute shot in the arm each day. My other source of joy is friends and regular lunches is my added lifeline.

Skydancer Thu 21-Dec-23 14:52:40

I feel the same, Rosie. When we are working we are busy and there are never enough hours in the day. But, once retired, unless we have an all-consuming hobby, the days can be long and sometimes tedious. I know I have so much to be grateful for - and believe me, I am - but I feel a loss of focus especially since my GC are not small any more and don't need me as before. Also no doubt most of us don't need to make money nor have the wherewithall to do so, so there is no longer that push. It's a feeling of it's all behind me and I would really love to have a focus that made me want to leap out of bed in the morning but I fear I never will. Sorry I have not cheered you up in the slightest but it's to say you are most definitely not alone in how you feel. As we can see on here, many people feel the same even if we don't say so out loud.

RosiesMaw Thu 21-Dec-23 15:04:59

Sister-in-law took initiative at the gathering, offered him her mobile number. Not lost on us - she was very proactive and is happy

While I am very happy for them, this is absolutely not on my agenda.
See the “Do you need a man to be happy” thread .

MayBee70 Thu 21-Dec-23 15:24:25

RosiesMaw

Thank you for all the kind messages on my self-pitying post about being down in the dumps. I have given my head a bit of a wobble, pulled myself together and been out for coffee and indulgent cake with a good friend.
Actually this last is I am sure what has helped the most.
The fear of appearing needy or risking rejection is often what stops those of us on our own from being more proactive in socialising
It only takes a No to set you right back, but with that in mind I will take the initiative more often instead of waiting for contact.
So if I haven’t replied to your DM’s individually yet, it’s not that I am ungrateful. While I am sorry that anybody shares how I was feeling, it is comforting to know we are not alone.
Thank you 🙏

My life has imploded since the pandemic started. There always seems to be something in the pipeline that makes me scared of catching covid. My son asked me if I wanted to go with them to a pantomime but I’m still avoiding crowded places. It made me realise how many things I no longer do ( theatre, cinema, trains buses…) that I used to enjoy. Today I was going to go to a local country park that is lovely at Christmas but the wind has scuppered that plan. My life seems to consist of listening to podcasts and watching catchup tv. And the weather is so depressing. I just don’t want to go outside even into the garden! The thought of the things I have missed out of doing over the past few years saddens me, too. Holidays with family, concerts, departed friends that I didn’t see because of covid. Roll on springtime…

Parsley3 Thu 21-Dec-23 15:38:00

I can sympathise, RosiesMaw. I have just passed through a spell of waking up with an illogical feeling of dread which lasted all day. I had to force myself to get going but I didn't tell my lovely family that it was even an effort to speak to them. I blamed the darkness of December. The dark mood has lifted, thank goodness, partly due to me forcing myself to get out and get on with things. I didn't achieve that every day but when I did I came home feeling a bit better. But I still can't watch or listen to heartbreaking news stories, coward that I am.

MayBee70 Thu 21-Dec-23 15:43:14

When I wake up and it’s too early to get up I listen to Jason Stephensons Get Back to Sleep fast on utube. I’ve become quite dependent on them. I don’t understand how they work as I find them quite irritating, but they do.

cornergran Thu 21-Dec-23 16:43:18

Pleased you’re feeling brighter maw.nothing like being with a good friend. Well other than cake.

At the moment although Mr C is with me I could sit and weep. I’ve been beyond down since having bovid 5 weeks ago. Can’t shake symptoms and my mood has crashed. I pretend I’m ok most of the time. . We’ve been out today to cheer me. Worked a treat until the dash became full of warning lights. Very pretty but unwanted. Currently sat in the garage. It’s in diagnostics. Ten minutes is stretching to two hours. It’s got to come back for more diagnostics tomorrow. No guarantee we can drive it over Christmas. Of course we’ll get round it. Wont starve if we have to cancel plans to go to family but it’s just too much and I’m struggling not to howl. We’ve not seen a glimmer of sun for days if not weeks. Doesn’t help. So windy and wet. Also doesn’t help. Will work through it and I know I’m more fortunate than many. Just venting really.

Vito Thu 21-Dec-23 16:45:41

Thank you for this thread Maw, everything you said I can identify with. I have to have a plan for the day, or I can slip into a very low mood. However I try to count my blessings and thank God for my dogs, who have to be walked,fed and loved ,even when I m a grumpy old bat, they always love me back. flowers

RosiesMaw Thu 21-Dec-23 17:10:53

flowers Cornergran.and sincere commiserations.
Bl**dy cars. They choose their moments.
I hope the family will rally round and see that you are OK but the feeling of being let down by a lump of metal is undeniably the last straw. Try to believe that despite all you have been through recently, that it’s not personal.
You will be run down as well as feeling down as an after effect of Covid - have you thought of trying our Mothers’ favourite remedy a “tonic” ?or failing that a couple of stiff ones?
I had a similar experience last Easter when I could at least get to London on the train provided somebody drove me to the station or I’d have been on my own - and miserable with it. Vulnerable did not come close.
I sincerely hope things come right for you and indeed for all those, who like me, are feeling less than our most resilient.
As they say in Scotland
“Here’s tae us! What’s like us?”
It goes on with “Dam’’ few, and they’re a’ deid “ ?
So here’s to us !

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 21-Dec-23 17:16:40

Poor corner. I’m sure covid can really knock the stuffing out of you. I hope you feel better very soon and that the car will be ok to drive at Christmas. 🤞 I am fortunate to have avoided it (largely because, like MayBee, I just don’t go to those places where I might catch it any more - my life has changed so much. I hope all will feel better once we’re the other side of this very stressful time of year, when the absence of loved ones is felt all the more keenly. Next month we will begin to see the days starting to draw out, bringing the promise of spring and, let us all hope, better times. Just this week I have had news that one cousin has died, another has stage four cancer which has spread, and a third has been widowed. And today is the day my much loved Gran died, very many years ago but I mark the day still as though it were yesterday. I’m another who always puts on a smile and says I’m fine. There are many of us aren’t there? I’m also fortunate to still have my husband, but somehow dogs understand and I’m so grateful for that.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 21-Dec-23 17:17:58

Yes, Maw, here’s to US!

Bella23 Thu 21-Dec-23 18:12:11

I agree Maw," Here's to us! What's like us".
I had written a long post in reply to what you wrote and I moved and the bloody thing got deleted. Rabbie got it so right, in so many ways. When I hear," Old Lang Syne ", the tears will start.
So many more than anyone would ever know feel like you do. I'm lucky I still have DH, I worry about what I will do if the situation arises and I don't, I worry about if it is the other way around. I can no longer drive because of a hip problem.
My DDs live long journeys from me and this year we are staying at home as one is invited to inlaws and the other, I don't want her risking the journey up here.
Just like in some awful way, this depressing weather we are having makes me feel glad that DH does not have to do an 8-hour drive in bad weather like we did last year to get to them.
I confess I was pleased when other friends said they were staying at home and then I felt guilty.
I joined Gransnet in the hope of meeting some like-minded people and certainly have and also others.
My day used to be like it was when I worked starting at 9, lunch at 12 and finishing at 3.30 pm for reflection and making a list for the next day. I then thought why am I making myself stick to a rigid timetable?
I stopped going to the village Coffee Morning because someone scoffed and called it a load of C.Dodgers. Even the expression made me cry. Well, my New Year resolves to go back, quite a lot of neighbours have come and asked me, so why shouldn't I if it's a mutual support group then that's good.
Don't think you are alone you are not. We all enjoy your poetry and appreciate the time it takes you.
So remember we are all in it together and you have a lot of people who appreciate you and would like to be your friend if they lived near you.flowers

Grandmabatty Thu 21-Dec-23 18:22:38

Cornergran I'm sorry to hear about your car. It's the last straw after a challenging time for you, I expect.

creativeness Thu 21-Dec-23 18:32:58

Definitely a difficult time of year & with all the dark overcast days too. But should the shortest day soon so that’s good too

Norah Thu 21-Dec-23 19:13:04

RosiesMaw

^Sister-in-law took initiative at the gathering, offered him her mobile number. Not lost on us - she was very proactive and is happy^

While I am very happy for them, this is absolutely not on my agenda.
See the “Do you need a man to be happy” thread .

I expressed myself poorly and I'm sorry for that.

I doubt she needed a man - it blossomed, but that was not my point. She's retired and was slowly healing with her family.

She was under 60 at her husband's death, had the rock in her pocket for 5 years, the edges and bad places had rubbed smooth, she was, as you were calling your friend, proactive to be with people didn't fear rejection.

cornergran Thu 21-Dec-23 19:48:51

Update. Venting must have worked, along with the very kind and understanding words here.

Eventually told yes, we can drive it complete with Christmas tree type lights and accompanying warning noises which apparently can’t be disabled. Needs a new front camera. When? No idea. Never mind, we can get to our son on Christmas Day, otherwise he would have a day alone

The next challenge appeared in the way home. The dash cam informed us politely it wasn’t charging and would we please plug it in - then it died. Resurrected once home it’s ok if plugged in. Can only assume the two are linked somehow. Dash cam after-fitted by Halfords. No one can look tomorrow, they will Saturday. Yikes, it’s in the middle of an always busy shopping area. Ok. We can do this and somehow could laugh about it, once I stopped orbiting Mars.

No, things don’t come in threes!!

Thank you for your understanding everyone. Sanity and relatively good humour have been reclaimed. Wishing you all the very best whatever your sadness.

Iam64 Thu 21-Dec-23 20:00:28

I’m ’enjoying’ this thread, it’s somehow reassuring to read other women in our age group sharing feelings we probably don’t share with our adult children or even our friends.

Cornergran, I went tour our 5 year old granddaughters nativity with the paternal gran yesterday. She’s a lovely energetic retired nurse - she ran our hospice for years - enough said. She had covid recently, is still exhausted.