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hollysteers Wed 03-Jan-24 03:05:54

What is the perceived threat if photos are posted of babies, toddlers and young children if their faces are shown?
We have so many photos of the backs of children or their faces blurred. If the Prince and Princess of Wales are not bothered (Harry and Meghan don’t allow it of course..) why is the rest of the world so concerned?
Maybe I’m being naïve, but I’d like to be enlightened.

Harris27 Tue 09-Jan-24 10:31:46

If you had to do the safeguarding training I’ve done over the years you’d realise why no photos should be passed on or printed on social media. However I don’t do Facebook or instragram etc but have been told how many kids are posing on there with parents approval. Just don’t get this at all .

VioletSky Tue 09-Jan-24 10:28:06

Also, if children want a hug they should always get one, definitely

VioletSky Tue 09-Jan-24 10:26:34

Iam64

I misunderstood Violet. Your post followed the one where I mentioned a distressed 4 year old climbing on his teacher’s knee and being comforted. I thought you were implying this was treating a child like property.

No problem

Iam64 Tue 09-Jan-24 08:04:48

I misunderstood Violet. Your post followed the one where I mentioned a distressed 4 year old climbing on his teacher’s knee and being comforted. I thought you were implying this was treating a child like property.

VioletSky Mon 08-Jan-24 23:40:33

This why many people do not want their children on other people's social media

VioletSky Mon 08-Jan-24 23:39:37

Yes it is treating children like property

There is sharing images and videos of minor children to close friends and family, people who see them often and love them

Or there is sharing pictures or videos of minor children to strangers for attention, likes or even money (family vloggers make incredible amounts). The children have no say, are not considered in this attention grabbing frenzy and are treated like objects

flappergirl Mon 08-Jan-24 20:27:00

If the OP was asking a genuine question I would be the first to sympathise and explain. See my previous quote history. But I feel sure she is trying to be goading although I am baffled as to her rationale.

As many previous posters have pointed out, she has talked of "hysteria" surrounding child safe guarding issues and basically claimed that Spain is immune from paedophiles or child abuse. Even though this assertion defies common sense and a previous poster offering evidence to the contrary.

The OP's comments in my opinion have not been sincere and contain a somewhat mocking and superior edge to them and I agree with Iam64 that she she has been rude and inaccurate.

Iam64 Mon 08-Jan-24 19:56:32

No one is suggesting treating children like property. J

VioletSky Mon 08-Jan-24 19:43:14

Because children have rights that should be respected and we shouldn't treat them like property

Marydoll Mon 08-Jan-24 19:35:39

Iam I hear what you are saying.
I worked in one of the most deprived areas in Scotland and were were not allowed to hug as much as we wished we could. Those were the rules.

Iam64 Mon 08-Jan-24 18:21:13

Marydoll, my primary school teacher daughter hugged children. She worked in a very deprived area. I went to the nativity a few years ago, a 4byear old boy arrived late, weeping, he ran and climbed on her knee.
My grandchildren go to two different local primary school. Hugs do happen, thankfully.

I don’t see the disagreement with hollysteers as ‘nasty’. The OP has posted her own critical views of safeguarding in the UK, of course that’s ok, she’s entitled to see things differently. But, accusing posters with vast experience of safeguarding as exaggerating the risks is rude an inaccurate

Kathmaggie Mon 08-Jan-24 16:39:36

MerylStreep Thankyou for your reassuring comment - you were right regarding my DiL’s friend.

Louella12 Mon 08-Jan-24 12:19:17

There will be millions and millions of photographs of children online. Think of all the children in adverts and on television.

These disgusting people have no need to trawl the likes of FB for any charming children.

They go elsewhere.
No need for this talk of superimposing either. That was a couple of decades ago.

hollysteers Mon 08-Jan-24 12:07:23

LovesBach

The OP has been told, among other comments, that she is daft, naive, kidding herself, and has been invited to stay where she is, in another country.
How refreshing to see the continued enjoyment of polite and civilised debate here on Gransnet..

Thanks LoveBach. It’s not surprising Gransnetters are afeared to start threads.
Being anonymous truly can reveal the nasty side of peoples natures.👍

Glorianny Mon 08-Jan-24 10:49:08

I've just looked at my GC school's website and there are photographs of children on it. I believe schools are permitted to do this providing they obtain consent from the parents.

I would never put children's photos on any social media.

As far as hugging teachers goes, my GD has always been a very demonstrative child and hugged her teachers. Even aged 10 she rushed across the school yard to hug her favourite teacher who had taught her in reception class.

LovesBach Mon 08-Jan-24 10:11:07

The OP has been told, among other comments, that she is daft, naive, kidding herself, and has been invited to stay where she is, in another country.
How refreshing to see the continued enjoyment of polite and civilised debate here on Gransnet..

Dizzyribs Sun 07-Jan-24 21:19:35

This might help
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Sarahr Sun 07-Jan-24 20:03:22

Images can be used to locate children or their family, who have been victims of abuse or crime.
We had a child in our children's club who was living in a place of safety. Any photos of the child on social media could have led to the perpetrator locating the child.
Also, images can be used by paedophile etc. as they are often tech savvy and can photoshop images.

Saggi Sun 07-Jan-24 19:33:54

Kids have rights ,and one of them is NOT to have their images posted all over stupid social media. What a daft question .

spabbygirl Sun 07-Jan-24 18:59:45

some bad people might manipulate the photo to put other bodies on there doing unspeakable things, after years in child protection I have heard of similar. I wouldn't want that done to my kids, or anyone else's for that matter.

Fairycakes Sun 07-Jan-24 18:15:45

hollysteers
I'm glad you asked the question bc I'd always wondered the exact reason for not photographing children. I knew it was a safety measure and that children who were adopted or fostered had to be protected, but was not aware of the other reasons. I learnt my lesson the hard way; many years ago I put photos of my toddler grandsons on a forum. Others were doing it and I felt so proud of them. However, someone began contacting me with very long messages, saying how beautiful the children were, and at first I thought nothing of it. But then they began wanting to knit items for the children and although I told them no (firmly) they wouldn't take no for an answer. They wanted my home address to send the items they had made for them.

I admit I had been foolishly naive but that certainly awoke me to the dangers of showing off my grandchildren or revealing too much. I unsubscribed from the forum (it was the only way to get rid of them in the end). I have never posted photos of family members since. I don't even have a Facebook.

Marydoll Sun 07-Jan-24 18:04:35

Nanatotwo, a good example of the dangers of posting photos of children.

Nantotwo Sun 07-Jan-24 17:22:27

One of my grandchildren is adopted. Right up to the time of legalising the adoption the parents had visitation rights. The parents were antagonistic against everyone understandably as they were losing their baby but they were young and very irresponsible and unable to care for a child even with a lot of support. No one posts photos of him online where he is identifiable as it's a risk. Likewise, someone we know who escaped a domestic violence situation with her children makes sure they aren't visible on photos so that her ex husband cannot find them.

MerylStreep Sun 07-Jan-24 16:44:03

Kathmaggie
It’s very possible that your friend is in your daughter in laws group on FB. But still wise to have a word.

Marydoll Sun 07-Jan-24 16:37:03

ExaltedWombat, there is something wrong with Safeguarding and knowledge of GDPR regulations in the schools you visited.
It makes me wonder how many others with more sinister intentions have trawled those sites.

To those posters who think so, the responses on here are neither harsh nor judgemental. Some posters are very experienced in this area and have undergone extensive training.
Hopefully posters have been made more aware of this issue.