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hollysteers Wed 03-Jan-24 03:05:54

What is the perceived threat if photos are posted of babies, toddlers and young children if their faces are shown?
We have so many photos of the backs of children or their faces blurred. If the Prince and Princess of Wales are not bothered (Harry and Meghan don’t allow it of course..) why is the rest of the world so concerned?
Maybe I’m being naïve, but I’d like to be enlightened.

Anniebach Wed 03-Jan-24 03:17:14

Harry and Megan hope to sell photographs of their children ?

welbeck Wed 03-Jan-24 04:42:08

it's a matter of privacy and the rights of individuals to decide if when they want their images to be broadcast, which will make them identifiable.
obviously the royal children are seen at public events so their images are already well known.
is this a serious question ?
or is part of yet another in-laws saga ?

BlueBelle Wed 03-Jan-24 05:50:31

Are you seriously asking this ?
Pictures can be easily used for child abuse and other illegal anti social behaviour have you never heard of women who fall in love and are fleeced out of large sums of money by men who steal a picture and become that person
Harry and Meghan quite rightly don’t want their children maligned, pored over for every little flaw, or used for criminal intent Same reason we never see or hear Johnson’s new brood
Gosh you sound very innocent with this question

Sara1954 Wed 03-Jan-24 06:14:45

Maybe if that’s how you feel, and I would absolutely agree, don’t post photos of your children at all, I should think that even if your account is private, it would be quite easy to gain access.

Allsorts Wed 03-Jan-24 06:33:33

I would never show pictures of my family on line even to close friends. The are around my house and we show pictures when we see each. It's up to individuals to decide who sees what. More important than ever with young children.

Galaxy Wed 03-Jan-24 07:46:06

Do you mean in general. There are numerous reasons with regard to child safeguarding.

WhatamIdoinghere Wed 03-Jan-24 07:57:57

As well as the safeguarding issue, including the risk of your children's faces being photoshopped onto images of abuse, and the rights of children not to have their photos shared with all and sundry, there is also the risk of facial recognition software being used to identify individuals - and I am sure there will be the ability to 'age' photos at some point, if not already possible - there are real issues around civil liberties with this.

Marydoll Wed 03-Jan-24 08:43:48

Another issue is that estranged parents or those with court orders banning them from contacting their children have been known to trawl school websites looking to identify where their child was.
Estranged parents have been known to turn up at the school gates demanding to see their child.

As an administrator of a school website, this was drummed into us at safeguarding training. Consequently only side and back views of children were shown and no names were published. Sad, but necessary.

I am afraid you are being naive Hollysteers.

TerriBull Wed 03-Jan-24 08:53:51

Aside from all the relevant points already raised, on a minor note, the child/baby adult can't give an informed choice as to whether or not they want their images displayed on a public forum and may in the future take their parents to task for doing so. If any of us go back through our own childhood photos would we have wanted them put up for perusal if such a method was available way back in the mists of time.?

TerriBull Wed 03-Jan-24 08:54:54

adult

DillytheGardener Wed 03-Jan-24 09:32:01

Son doesn’t allow pictures of GC online because you don’t know who is viewing or sharing them. Images can be doctored and photoshopped by sex offenders. Also your location can be given away by the metadata on the photo. Gen Z are apparently statistically very high in identity theft figures because of the all the information given out in photo posts, their dob, full name etc all given in birth announcements, birthday posts etc.

I was disappointed of course not to be able to show off to friends about gc like everyone I know seems to, but having read a little into I think it’s a good idea not to.

MerylStreep Wed 03-Jan-24 09:37:22

BlueBelle

Are you seriously asking this ?
Pictures can be easily used for child abuse and other illegal anti social behaviour have you never heard of women who fall in love and are fleeced out of large sums of money by men who steal a picture and become that person
Harry and Meghan quite rightly don’t want their children maligned, pored over for every little flaw, or used for criminal intent Same reason we never see or hear Johnson’s new brood
Gosh you sound very innocent with this question

Exactly!!! Some folk just wander around in La La land 🤷‍♀️

karmalady Wed 03-Jan-24 09:37:57

AI can be used to put these pictures of children on very realistic, made-up, videos, showing horrific child abuse for the perverted in our society

MerylStreep Wed 03-Jan-24 09:40:30

DillytheGardener
Why not use some other medium, WhatsApp? to send photos to friends.

Parsley3 Wed 03-Jan-24 09:54:53

The Prince and Princess of Wales are very bothered about their children being photographed and that is why only official photos or those taken at public events are published.
I hope the perceived threat has been well enough explained above to be understood by the OP.

annodomini Wed 03-Jan-24 10:00:44

I have only once put a photo of a GC on line - she was 17 and beautifully dressed for the school prom. Had she been much younger, she might have been crudely described as 'jail bait'. That is why, boast as I may about my gorgeous toddler GGD, you won't ever see a photo of her here.

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 03-Jan-24 10:06:15

I don’t think Princess Beatrice’s daughter has ever been seen in the media. Always a back view.

Katie59 Wed 03-Jan-24 10:11:56

Many of us are “innocent” and don’t realize how a photo can be copied from a website, Facebook for instance, you can copy a photo of someone’s friend, store it on your computer and use it how you want if you are malicious.

Fleurpepper Wed 03-Jan-24 11:12:26

I am always amazed that grand-parents publish photos of their grandchildren on social media, including GN.

In our family, it is an agreed NO- and fully respected- unless face blurred or hidden. I always ask permission first.

flappergirl Wed 03-Jan-24 11:36:40

Because babies and children cannot, or do not fully understand, consent.

You wouldn't plaster pictures of a relative all over social media if they were opposed to it. Children and babies have no voice or choice in the matter. It is immoral to disregard their choices and treat them as property.

Because their images could be hijacked and used for child porn. It happens a lot.

Because the images may be identifiable by an estranged or violent partner or relative.

The Prince and Princess of Wales are already in the public domaine. It is their job. It would be almost impossible and extremely unpopular for them to hide their high profile children from the public gaze. They are not Mr & Mrs Jones of 42 Acacia Avenue and they have the best security in the land including M15 and M16. It is daft to use them as an example of anything relating to every day life.

Fleurpepper Wed 03-Jan-24 12:03:57

Thinking about it- I truly feel uncomfortable when people share on Facebook or other social media- scans of unborn babies.

vegansrock Wed 03-Jan-24 12:07:54

The RF have to be seen to be believed - it’s their job to be photographed and seen in public, you can’t extrapolate from them to anyone else.

hollysteers Wed 03-Jan-24 12:25:52

Thanks for comments. Obviously my mind is a lot purer than many of our wise gransnetters on here😄😇
I have no personal interest in this, but thought it might be part of the heightened paranoia we seem to live with these days.

Galaxy Wed 03-Jan-24 12:33:21

It's nothing to do with purity of mind, in my case its 30 plus years of working in the social care field.