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Gotten or Got

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flappergirl Mon 08-Jan-24 22:48:23

I joined a thread on Mumsnet a while back about aspects of social media that irritate you. I cited a few things, amongst which was the increasing use of "gotten" instead of "got".

I had many replies from people who claimed that it was in fact correct. My response being that it had ceased to be used in the UK in the 18th century but it was absolutely correct in American English.

Several posters told me that it was normal in South East England, Scotland and the Midlands and that gotten, not got, was actually taught in Irish schools and always had been.

I can't speak for SE England, the Midlands or Scotland but I've had quite a few Irish friends over the years and I've never heard them say gotten instead of got and I'm sure I would have noticed.

Does anyone live in or have connections to the regions or countries mentioned and if so is this correct? Enlighten me!

Wheniwasyourage Sat 13-Jan-24 17:35:48

Ok, then perhaps it’s reasonable to accept that in some areas, people have not stopped using “gotten”!

Callistemon21 Sat 13-Jan-24 18:36:22

i think saying, may i have ...would feel rather arch and unnatural to most young people.

It was drummed into me.

"Can I have" was considered to be rude.

Callistemon21 Sat 13-Jan-24 18:36:55

Wheniwasyourage

Ok, then perhaps it’s reasonable to accept that in some areas, people have not stopped using “gotten”!

But where?
Has anyone heard it anywhere in the UK?

sharon103 Sat 13-Jan-24 18:45:00

I've never heard anyone say gotten round here.
My late sister who had lived in different parts of America over 60 years, when speaking to her on the phone always used to say gotten.

Wheniwasyourage Sat 13-Jan-24 21:18:25

Yes, Callistemon21, as I have already said, I have heard it used here by Doric speakers.

welbeck Sun 14-Jan-24 00:27:52

Callistemon21

^i think saying, may i have ...would feel rather arch and unnatural to most young people^.

It was drummed into me.

"Can I have" was considered to be rude.

i presume you are not a young person.
that's my point.
it sounds completely different to many young people, so i'm guessing it will die out as the usual form.

Aveline Sun 14-Jan-24 07:29:28

Young people nowadays say, ' Can I get?'. Just awful.

lemsip Sun 14-Jan-24 08:48:10

gotten is american . american journalists on the dm are causing these 'americanisms' to creep into our english language.

I watch judge judy and she is frequently correcting uoung people on the show who say 'tooken' instead of taken! Lets hope that one doesn't creep over here!

Sarahr Thu 22-Feb-24 20:13:58

I have lived in Devon, Sussex, Wiltshire, Hampshire, Oxfordshire, Kent, Lincolnshire, and The Shetlands. I have travelled to many parts of the country too. It has always been "got" wherever I have been.