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Do you always obey the rules or use common sense sometimes?

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kircubbin2000 Sun 21-Jan-24 11:31:41

We live in a nanny state and a lot of people do what they are told regardless.
I'm thinking king of a couple of things. We were at an event in a sports centre where barriers were used to let ticket holders through(like on the tube) and IN and Out were clearly marked.
When it was over all the gates were open and as I was going through the main exit my friends stopped me and told me we had to use the smaller OUT gate.
On another outing we had decided not to go on a museum tour and I suggested we could go for coffee and meet up with the rest of the party after their tour.
The other ladies were reluctant as Betty the leader might not approve!

JamesandJon33 Mon 22-Jan-24 19:24:03

Heady moment today. Hardly any cars in the car park so we drove straight across, ignoring the arrows .

albertina Mon 22-Jan-24 18:42:03

I'm obviously an odd bod, as I try to follow the rules in all things. I had a strict catholic upbringing and it has affected my whole life. Friends feel the same.
As for people not liking the idea of a nanny state, I remember fondly when tv was used to pass on sensible messages about health and road safety etc. What's wrong with that. It's not a nanny state, just good common sense to keep the nation safe.

Saggi Mon 22-Jan-24 16:57:32

I was holidaying in Austria years ago and was standing waiting to cross a big road….lits if Austrians waiting and us ( English) and a couple of Americans!
I kid you not there was absolutely no traffic from either direction ….zilch….we stood at these lights waiting for ‘green man’ …he never showed up ! Thinking the lights were faulty and seeing no traffic is English and the two Americans crossed the road …..the noise and hullabaloo from the indigenous populace was incredible. We just laughed and went on our way…..into a local shop ….we spent 7/8 minutes browsing ….bought a souvenir for out two teenagers left at home….when we came out , you’ve guessed it. They were ALL still waiting. You really have got to wonder about the mindset of people. Would they have stayed all night I wonder …..

Louella12 Mon 22-Jan-24 15:50:56

LovesBach

I once skipped across a traffic light crossing very quickly as the red man appeared; as I reached the kerb, I heard 'WELL! That was VERY VERY naughty!' I turned to see a small girl, about four, with hands on hips, 'leaning in' as my DS calls the pose, and glaring at me. I apologised profusely and agreed that I had been very naughty and could have got knocked down, and I would never do it again. I generally always obey rules; 'probably would be a perfect citizen for a Communist state.

That's exactly the problem I mentioned earlier!

I taught my children to look at the road, not some red/green man. And yes, if the road is clear then just cross the road.

My mother actually drove through a red light on a crossing. As I yelled at her I breathed a sigh of relief that no child was focusing on red or green lights.

biglouis Mon 22-Jan-24 15:45:01

“This is exactly what I did when I worked busy football saturdays in Liverpool when both teams were playing at home.”

Not sure that ever happens BigLouis…

Rare, but if both were drawn at home in FA Cup...
(Mind you these days one would probably play on a Saturday, other on a Sunday)
It does happen twice a season when they are playing each other!

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To be honest I never knew which team was playing except that getting a bus in that part of the city was impossible as they were all arriving full. I was just a 16 year old girl wanting to get home after a days work. It cost me a few pence extra in bus fare (this was the 1960s) but I did manage to get on a bus before it hit the football crowds.

I have never had the slightest interest in football despite growing up in a city with two famous teams and now living in a city with one of the most famous teams in the world (Man United).

LovesBach Mon 22-Jan-24 15:42:30

I once skipped across a traffic light crossing very quickly as the red man appeared; as I reached the kerb, I heard 'WELL! That was VERY VERY naughty!' I turned to see a small girl, about four, with hands on hips, 'leaning in' as my DS calls the pose, and glaring at me. I apologised profusely and agreed that I had been very naughty and could have got knocked down, and I would never do it again. I generally always obey rules; 'probably would be a perfect citizen for a Communist state.

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 22-Jan-24 15:33:39

strong/ fit! ( strict not so necessary..)

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 22-Jan-24 15:32:27

I am ( mostly) a rule follower. I am disappointed to read the disparaging terms used for me - " fools"/ " sheep". There seems to be no such disparagement of rule - breakers. As Dickens said, "nanny state " is used to describe a society with rules and sanctions- how is that wrong?
The alternative is a society with no rules or in which no one feels inclined to obey any they don't like. This state is called anarchy.
Anarchy is an OK place if you are young, strict, fit, and well resourced. If you are none of these things it might be a more troubling place to be.

Nannan2 Mon 22-Jan-24 15:05:52

Dont follow 'nonsence' rules like the above, just the sensible ones that are strictly neccessary.

Nannan2 Mon 22-Jan-24 15:03:41

The OP never said they had not visited the museum- just they had not wanted to go on the actual museum 'tour' around- with a guide i presume?So not wasting their ticket to said museum but just not trailing around after a know-all guide- but just looking around after at your own pace after your coffee.Didnt take a genius to work that out.

polly123 Mon 22-Jan-24 14:45:10

No I don't follow rules unless they make sense to me. Otherwise I feel like the proverbial sheep! I take a common sense approach and am comfortable ignoring rules that are made sometimes by people who don't necessarily know what they are doing.

Pantglas2 Mon 22-Jan-24 14:34:54

“It does happen twice a season when they are playing each other!”

Agreed, average 50,000 fans on those and cup draws NannyC1 but that’s a huge difference from 90,000+ every Saturday for nine months which BigLouis was suggesting …

Cossy Mon 22-Jan-24 14:11:09

Gundy

You sound like my kind of person haha grin

Louella12 Mon 22-Jan-24 14:01:30

Gundy

I’ve always said “Rules are made to be broken.” Hahaa… that’s my rebellious streak

I’ve broken rules, I follow rules, I make my own rules, then I break those. But so far I have not ended up in jail. So far, so good.

I do think archaic rules need revisiting. It’s a different world.

Ha! My dad always says that

Gundy Mon 22-Jan-24 13:51:58

I’ve always said “Rules are made to be broken.” Hahaa… that’s my rebellious streak

I’ve broken rules, I follow rules, I make my own rules, then I break those. But so far I have not ended up in jail. So far, so good.

I do think archaic rules need revisiting. It’s a different world.

jocork Mon 22-Jan-24 13:23:00

I worry about people who blindly follow the 'Use by' date on things and even more so the 'Best before' date. I use common sense, sense of smell and taste and don't generally suffer any unpleasant consequences. I wouldn't give out of date food to a guest as they may be more sensitive than me but I wonder how much perfectly good food is thrown away by rule followers who can't bring themselves to break what they see as a rule. I recently polished off 3 'out of date' yogurts on consecutive days, the last one being a week past it's 'use by' and am still around to tell the tale!

win Mon 22-Jan-24 13:19:48

When someone organises a coach trip and you sign up to go on that trip you normally know the agenda in advance. Often you have free time to do what you like too. If you leave the party except for the free time you aren't covered by the insurance the organiser usually has for the group as it is a huge responsibility to be in charge of a group. You can easily misunderstand where you are meeting up again, you can be taken ill and so many other things can go wrong if you go off on your own. So no Betty mayn't like it. She should however not have changed the agenda if that is indeed what she did, it depends what was agreed when you signed up. I organise many group trips for our support group and am not best pleased when some strong headed person decides to go off with 4-5 others in tow. It causes an atmosphere and huge worry for the organiser. It can easily spoil the whole trip for your fellow group members too. Always turn the coin around and think about how you would feel yourself. Organising a trip takes a lot of usually volunteering time and effort, it is only courtesy to what you have initially arranged to do. OP's examples are very weak indeed. in particularly as she then later states that the museum visit was not on the original Agenda. So there were no rules broken that case. It sounds like you do not like this Betty who in charge!!

Mojack26 Mon 22-Jan-24 12:55:11

That's a completely different situation from one described above. These type of rules should be adhered to as they could adversely affect others health

Mojack26 Mon 22-Jan-24 12:51:51

I'm a 'rule breaker' where common sense prevails! So what if 'Betty the leader didn't approve' If no harm is caused to anyone or anything use common sense!

NannyC1 Mon 22-Jan-24 12:49:12

Pantglas2

“This is exactly what I did when I worked busy football saturdays in Liverpool when both teams were playing at home.”

Not sure that ever happens BigLouis…

Rare, but if both were drawn at home in FA Cup...
(Mind you these days one would probably play on a Saturday, other on a Sunday)
It does happen twice a season when they are playing each other!

Grand2dogs Mon 22-Jan-24 12:46:53

Covid rules were a must for me, as in the December prior I was diagnosed with Vasculitis (GPA) it was out of control so I was (still am) on strong immunosuppressive drugs. I went out for my walks in the country and sat at home petrified. My wife was told by her GP (because of me) to come home immediately then lock down happened. Her employers didn’t follow the rules they wouldn’t listen to the Doctors they wouldn’t help her in any way so she left. We followed those Covid rules we both got jabbed up a year later and we both during that time got equally frustrated by those who didn’t care and broke every. Covid guideline or rule they could. If I had not been CEV would I have still followed the rules? Absolutely I could not coped with the fact I had infected a CEV person.

petra Mon 22-Jan-24 12:30:54

Amalegra
David Camaron set up the Nudge Department in 2010.
It came into its own ( didn’t it 😉) in March 2020.

Amalegra Mon 22-Jan-24 12:22:03

I follow sensible rules but many are so ridiculous they seem to invite the breaking of them! It’s as though the general population are so infantilised that we cannot be trusted to look after ourselves or judge the risk to anyone else. I think there is sometimes an element of government etc control and we know the poor quality of their decisions! Unfortunately there are always some jobsworths eager to enforce petty rules and others who would not dream of challenging them.

Sonicbear01 Mon 22-Jan-24 12:06:17

Unfortunately, the blind obedience of sheeples following the dictates of those who profess to 'know better than the rest of us' and lie as a matter of course to retain power (red, blue, and any shade between), are the reasons the UK is in deep moo-poo right now. Deliberate creation and/or exacerbation of divisions amongst the proletariat - are the ways to keep control.

petra Mon 22-Jan-24 11:58:34

When this description ( oppositional defiance disorder) was used in relation to my granddaughter the family said well we know where she gets that from Me 😂