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caknib Mon 29-Jan-24 15:37:12

An acquaintance does this to pay for holidays. Quite unpleasant in my opinion.
Any thoughts?

rafichagran Tue 30-Jan-24 00:52:09

This thread is very vague. This person the poster writes about could be breeding pedigree cats with a licence. The OP states they have never seen the conditions the cats live in.
The OP also said that she learnt second hand that the owner funded her holidays by selling these kittens. How does she/he know its true.
The thread started is based on gossip, and I think the person who started this thread should mind her/his own business.

Katie59 Tue 30-Jan-24 06:24:49

I would doubt if anyone gets much of a holiday out of breeding cats, nobody gets a holiday out of breeding rare breeds of farm animals, they are so unproductive, eating far more than they are worth.

Fancy breeds of dogs is different, at £2000 and more there is big money to be made, point the finger at East European smuggling gangs who bring puppies into the UK. Or bring a pregnant bitch in then sell the pups, advertised locally, in my opinion ANYONE selling a dog should be registered.

caknib Tue 30-Jan-24 07:43:18

Absolutely no sour grapes from me and no need to tell me to mind my own business.
This person has chosen to breed domestic animals to fund extras like holidays. As there are thousands of strays, this seems unfortunate. Animals can't say no,can they.
It seems an unkind way to behave.

Rest assured I will do my research before having the temerity to start a thread in future.
Thanks

argymargy Tue 30-Jan-24 07:55:57

Thousands of strays? Really?

emmausa Tue 30-Jan-24 08:43:04

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wildswan16 Tue 30-Jan-24 08:54:15

Reported

sassenach512 Tue 30-Jan-24 09:36:12

That's why I don't post anymore caknib stick your head above the parapet and there's always some gran ready to shoot you down. Why on earth have you reported this OP wildswan?

Georgesgran Tue 30-Jan-24 09:43:39

The previous post has been reported SS512 not the thread.
Spam or advertising probably.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 30-Jan-24 09:51:20

argymargy

Thousands of strays? Really?

Yes, really. All the rescue centres are full to bursting and there are so many living on the streets.

merlotgran Tue 30-Jan-24 09:51:53

Rest assured I will do my research before having the temerity to start a thread in future

Good idea!

Callistemon21 Tue 30-Jan-24 10:00:03

Rest assured I will do my research before having the temerity to start a thread in future

That would be wise.
And perhaps give some more detail before inviting opinions, most of which are considered given the paucity of the information at the start which was really only hearsay.

Aveline Tue 30-Jan-24 10:42:35

We rehomed two ex breeding male cats from a local breeder. We were very impressed at the set up. The whole house and gardens were organised for the cats benefit. Yes it was a business I suppose but seemed more of a lifestyle and all registered and legal. All kittens were brought up in this domestic setting and not sold until 16 weeks old and all vaccinated, chipped and registered. Our house was inspected before the 'boys' were discharged into our care. I suspect their vet bills are horrendous as all cats are inspected and tested for any potential problems.
Probably the lady makes a living out of it but not a particularly lavish one. She loves these cats and they obviously love her - says a lot I think.

caknib Tue 30-Jan-24 11:28:15

How rude you are ,some of you.

Millie22 Tue 30-Jan-24 11:35:15

caknib
Your user name reminds me of catnip which is very apt for this thread.

Aveline Tue 30-Jan-24 11:36:26

Miouw!

Esmay Tue 30-Jan-24 11:37:43

Cockerpoos are the favourite dog , where I live .
Their owners breed as many litters a year as they can .
I've noticed that these breeders seem to have very nice homes , wear expensive clothes , go to the beautician and drive nice cars .

My neighbour and her sister both have cockerpoos from the same " breeder".
Her bitch - sorry not allowed to use that term - girl dog cost £2,000 and her sister's dog cost £3,000 .
They are not trained , not always housetrained , yap a great deal and run into the road every day .

I've been told that it's a specialist breed recognised by the Kennel Club , the breeder is an approved breeder, they were lucky to acquire such dogs and that I would be unable to have one !

There are lots of advertisements in the freebies for similar dogs .

Gwyllt Tue 30-Jan-24 11:48:49

The bottom line is surely virtually all breeders sell their animals who are we to say what they spend it on
It might be preferable to buy a kitten from someone who only has the occasional litter because she is likely to be in a position to devote more time and attention to the mum and babies
I used to be a smallholder I bread ducks and geese I also had a flock of Dheep
I had a holiday and no one ever queried me or asked if I paid my taxes

Gwyllt Tue 30-Jan-24 11:49:45

Whoops wrong breed

Elegran Tue 30-Jan-24 11:51:20

caknib

How very odd some of the responses are. Quite clearly I know scant detail,as I made clear ,I am not talking about sheep or cows or a farm situation. I refer to an acquaintance who is breeding animals,selling them and using the money to fund holidays.
Since I have never set foot there,I can not comment on the living conditions of the queens and tomcat nor the frequency of litters.

Does every post warrant forensic questioning I wonder.

To echo your last sentence, does the situation you posted about initially warrant such a horrified reaction as you clearly have? That is why you received the questioning about the details of this breeder's methods.

You have admitted that you know nothing about how she goes about breeding them, but you also say that "it is grim" that the queens are permanently pregnant. If you believe that this is so, then inform the RSPCA at once If she is breeding enough kittens to have multiple holidays, then she should be licensed, and if she is found to be breaking regulations or maltreating the animals in her care, her licence will be revoked and she will be closely watched in future.

I think you have a general abhorrence of anyone selling, buying or using animals at all. That is a separate issue, and if you had not linked it with an implication that this woman was not only breeding and selling pets but also exploiting them and treating them badly, the replies could have been different.

As Aveline posted, most REPUTABLE breeders do it because they love to be surrounded by cats or dogs. They keep the kittens/puppies with their mothers until the age when in the wild they would naturally begin to leave and live independently, and they make sure that they are well fed, comfortable and happy.

Why not visit this breeder and see for yourself what conditions the animals are kept in, and whether they are relaxed and sociable? You could ask questions about the details that concern you.

tickingbird Tue 30-Jan-24 11:55:08

I find some of the comments towards new posters on this forum pretty nasty. Why? Some of you act like school prefects, expecting respect and subservience from new girls. It’s pathetic.

I remember well when I was on the receiving end when I first ventured in but I made it clear I’m no pushover and it soon stopped.

I feel like telling some to grow up!

Purplepixie Tue 30-Jan-24 11:56:15

We had a pedigree British short haired cat years ago. We had it mated and it produced one kitten. The kitten sold when the time was ready and it was my EX husband’s idea. The poor adult cat walked the house for days looking for her baby. Me and the kids were heartbroken. I swore I would never do that again for put another animal through it. So blooming cruel. Money is not everything!!!!!

Purplepixie Tue 30-Jan-24 11:57:16

I personally HATE the people who do it. Save up and get a blooming holiday the way everyone else has to do it. It makes me mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gwyllt Tue 30-Jan-24 12:45:47

Purple pixie does your money for your savings for your holiday come from your wages or a pension
People who bred animals do it for an income Do you believe no one should have pets ❓
Just like farmers for the food on your table
Sorry if you are a vegan for which I respect your life style choice

Oldbat1 Tue 30-Jan-24 13:11:55

argymargy

Thousands of strays? Really?

Yes thousands! Ask any rescue centre they have so many unwanted animals. I have 3 inwanted dogs currently. My friend rescues cats/kittens she fundraises to have them neutered and released if feral and tries to find homes for others. It will be kitten season very soon too many cats and not enough homes sadly.

Nannashirlz Tue 30-Jan-24 13:17:30

I had a Wolfe spitz with her papers pure German I bought her when I lived there. Brought her back to uk and the amount of times we were contacted from kennel club to bred her was ridiculous but I didn’t buy my dog for that reason and no dog was good enough for my girl lol a friend bought her sister and she did but unfortunately ppl see pound signs and get greedy