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Maggierose Wed 31-Jan-24 18:09:46

Every time I buy my usual tinted moisturiser I always have the same conversation with the shop assistant. I buy Laura Mercier in the Nude shade. I point out that I am surprised that they haven’t changed the name of the shade because the shade is only suitable for white women whereas Nude could apply to any skin shade. They don’t really get my point; the last time I bought it in a Space NK shop I was assured that the product came in shades for all skin colours. The daftest response came in Selfridges where the assistant thought for a moment then said, “Well we do have it in Natural.” Am I being pedantic?

SeaWoozle Wed 14-Feb-24 12:55:49

NotSpaghetti

I think most jobs make you want to scream some days! 🤣

Screaming isn't restricted to working in retail!

Agree! I've worked in care and as a chef. Numerous times within both I had to take a deep breath for fear of saying or shouting something I might regret!

But I do stand by my thoughts that everyone, at some point in their lifetime, should work in retail. You really do see the worst of how humans can treat others.

NotSpaghetti Tue 13-Feb-24 09:58:34

I think most jobs make you want to scream some days! 🤣

Screaming isn't restricted to working in retail!

SeaWoozle Tue 13-Feb-24 00:40:04

Theexwife

^If we had a pound for every time someone said "Oh, it's not scanning it must be free then!". I'd never have to work again. Should we just put on our fake smile and laugh, pathetically?! No, stop it! We don't care.^

I have never worked in a supermarket but even I am fed up hearing people say “ I only came in for a loaf of bread” when unloading a trolly full or “its busy/quiet today”.

It must be so annoying hearing the same thing countless times a day.

It certainly is. I'll talk to anyone about most things and made some amazing friends whilst working there, but some days I just wanted to scream! 🤣

Theexwife Thu 08-Feb-24 12:36:39

If we had a pound for every time someone said "Oh, it's not scanning it must be free then!". I'd never have to work again. Should we just put on our fake smile and laugh, pathetically?! No, stop it! We don't care.

I have never worked in a supermarket but even I am fed up hearing people say “ I only came in for a loaf of bread” when unloading a trolly full or “its busy/quiet today”.

It must be so annoying hearing the same thing countless times a day.

SeaWoozle Thu 08-Feb-24 11:49:20

Not pedantic. Annoying!

As someone who has just finished working in retail, you're just the kind of customer who got on our pip. Same old question to which we have no answer! If we had a pound for every time someone said "Oh, it's not scanning it must be free then!". I'd never have to work again. Should we just put on our fake smile and laugh, pathetically?! No, stop it! We don't care.

TinSoldier Mon 05-Feb-24 19:37:19

It highlighted a topic which I found interesting from a linguisitic perspective but there does seem little point in keep asking the same question of sales assistants who are selling hundreds of different products.

One of them might be persuaded to give some feedback to head office but it’s something a customer could do for themselves which gives them a chance to explain exactly why something is bothering them.

I’m a firm believer in going to top if there is an issue that’s bothering me and I haven't been able to get anywhere via the usual customer services route. Sometimes it can result in surprising and positive results.

Laura Mercier is based in New York. Creative Director is Melise Senaydi. According to her LinkedIn profile her brief includes packaging and consumer experience.

If Maggierose has serious concerns about this, lots of ways to contact Melise online via the usual places and direct email.

rafichagran Mon 05-Feb-24 19:16:46

LauraNorderr

We are in complete agreement Marydoll, compassion and kindness cost nothing.
As you have said previously if one feels snippy or vinegary then don’t post. Why spoil someone else’s day because ours is not good.

Totally agree with you snd Grandma French.

Marydoll Mon 05-Feb-24 19:13:20

Well I never thought we would ever agree LN, that's a first. 🤣

However, I didn't say it was right to be snippy, but I do understand why some posters may come across that way.

LauraNorderr Mon 05-Feb-24 19:08:45

We are in complete agreement Marydoll, compassion and kindness cost nothing.
As you have said previously if one feels snippy or vinegary then don’t post. Why spoil someone else’s day because ours is not good.

oodles Mon 05-Feb-24 19:05:47

It needs renaming for sure. I personally have very pale skin and many standard light coloured foundations are too dark.
I have in the past tried to buy cosmetics for a very dark skinned friend, very few ranges have a good range of foundations etc for dark skin. And having to go to specialist shops or stalls to get greetings cards for those with darker skin, very few available, if the bride or groom are black, I don't want to send a card with white couples on, or new baby ones, having to get ones without an actual baby on as their baby is not going to be pink and blonde haired. An irritation for me ,but what about if most people you send cards to need people with darker skins.

Marydoll Mon 05-Feb-24 18:48:39

One's own trials are not being advocated as an excuse, I'm just trying to explain that we never quite know what is going on in another's life and how it is affecting them. This may be reflected in their post.
No-one is perfect. You never know what is ahead of you. Compassion and kindness cost nothing.

Caleo Mon 05-Feb-24 18:44:28

In the 1930s Britain there was an accepted name in fasions for a brown hue : n------r .

LauraNorderr Mon 05-Feb-24 18:38:45

I agree wholeheartedly with grandmafrench, always the voice of calm and reason, always pleasant.
I’m afraid that I can’t agree with those who feel that our own trials and tribulations are an excuse to be rude or unpleasant to others.
I get the impression that the OP is simply expressing surprise that a shade she assumed meant something along the lines of naked and therefore suitable for all might seem insensitive to those of different colour.
She doesn’t say the same to the same shop assistant every time as she has made her purchases in various stores. I assume that she is just reminded of those thoughts at time of purchase and so makes comment.
No biggy, it’s just a chat.

Marydoll Mon 05-Feb-24 18:35:22

Some of you know I struggle with chronic ill health. I have felt particularly awful this week and on occasions have read a post and thought, Why are you moaning about something so trivial? However, I know that my perception or interpretation may be flawed and that I am particularly vinegar-y, because I have a mountain to climb to get through the day. Therefore, I try to refrain from commenting (it isn't easy) because I am a grumpy old woman. I don't always succeed and may come across as nippy. It does not mean I am a bad person.

Curlywhirly Mon 05-Feb-24 18:15:15

Marydoll

The thing is, some posters may be struggling badly and may find it difficult to cope with reading what seems like a moan about something as trivial as the colour of make up, when their own life is truly awful.
It is not surprising they may come across as vinegar-y. It's often difficult to ascertain whether a post is tongue in cheek, because the person is not standing in front of you.

I totally agree Marydoll.

Marydoll Mon 05-Feb-24 17:52:24

The thing is, some posters may be struggling badly and may find it difficult to cope with reading what seems like a moan about something as trivial as the colour of make up, when their own life is truly awful.
It is not surprising they may come across as vinegar-y. It's often difficult to ascertain whether a post is tongue in cheek, because the person is not standing in front of you.

Grandmafrench Mon 05-Feb-24 13:51:25

Please don't be surprised, OP. Most of us on Gransnet - those who don't need to hector, condescend, patronise, show off, argue or bully to defeat anything they're feeling vinegar-y about, don't bother to respond. That's definitely something for which life is too damn short. Ignore the nonsense, you'll eventually see it's mostly the same people making the same pronouncements.
Have an opinion, have a good day, live your life and don't let snarky comments deter you from posting !

Oldnproud Mon 05-Feb-24 13:43:09

Madmeg

Have I got the wrong end of the stick? Has the OP upset someone on here in the past? Surely she is just telling us about a conversation she has with a shop assistant, probably in a light-hearted manner, regarding something she imagines the assistant might be interested in and find amusing. Not expecting for it to be investigated or reported back to HO, but purely as a bit of conversation.

Surely she doesn't need to be told to get a life - she may well have a very good one, which includes making conversation with sales assistants. It's surely just chit-chat.

You have written exactly what I thought. It is actually a relief to find that I am not the only one who took it that way!

Maggierose Mon 05-Feb-24 13:25:15

Exactly, Madmeg! Was very surprised at people’s hostile reactions.

mabon2 Mon 05-Feb-24 12:59:17

Yes

Grammaretto Mon 05-Feb-24 01:52:01

Snag tights are ace scotgirlnick I am a convert.

How very rude some people are on here.
If all of us lived as though our daily lives weren't important, we'd never get out of bed and be very depressed.
Take note: Pippa22

Sasta Mon 05-Feb-24 00:53:09

Maggierose

Every time I buy my usual tinted moisturiser I always have the same conversation with the shop assistant. I buy Laura Mercier in the Nude shade. I point out that I am surprised that they haven’t changed the name of the shade because the shade is only suitable for white women whereas Nude could apply to any skin shade. They don’t really get my point; the last time I bought it in a Space NK shop I was assured that the product came in shades for all skin colours. The daftest response came in Selfridges where the assistant thought for a moment then said, “Well we do have it in Natural.” Am I being pedantic?

You are not being pedantic Maggierose. About 15 years ago my daughter and I were shocked when buying a well known body moisturiser that gave the skin a tanned glow. The colour was listed as ‘normal’ 🤷🏻‍♀️. To whom?

Daisydaisydaisy Sun 04-Feb-24 21:37:06

If you didn’t say the same thing then you wouldn’t get the same reply 🤣🤣🤣

DrWatson Sun 04-Feb-24 20:17:05

Yes Tin. If you're going to have what looks like fits over such a meaning/definition, I'd suggest that you never examine a paint sample 'leaflet', with maybe 15 versions of pink they've had to find names for, 17 blues, etc etc?! Car colour options too . . .

NotSpaghetti Sun 04-Feb-24 19:11:12

Stage make up (oil based sticks) used to be known by numbers I seem to remember.
The "greasepaint" Leichner ones.