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Lovely photo of Catherine for Mothering Sunday

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25Avalon Sun 10-Mar-24 09:14:28

Good news that Catherine is being seen again since her operation with a lovely family photo taken last week for Mother’s Day. Yes it’s the DM.

Anniebach Tue 26-Mar-24 13:20:50

There is stability and continuity with the royal family as with our families, politicians come and go , the late queen 70 years
with 15 prime ministers. People look at little Charlotte and say
‘She looks like her great grandmother’

Glorianny Tue 26-Mar-24 11:05:29

Callistemon21

We know that, Glorianny
(At least those of us with historian OHs do!)

However, your post does prove a point - the British, on the whole, have preferred to have a Monarchy than a Republic.

It was a reply to someone who obviously didn't, but thanks for the comment.
I'd dispute the "British on the whole" concept. The monarchy was (and still is) largely supported by the aristocracy and the monied. The number of revolts, rebellions, demonstrations and assassination attempts tell quite a different story.

Callistemon21 Tue 26-Mar-24 10:29:51

We know that, Glorianny
(At least those of us with historian OHs do!)

However, your post does prove a point - the British, on the whole, have preferred to have a Monarchy than a Republic.

Glorianny Tue 26-Mar-24 10:24:59

fancythat

I think people partly like them because it helps give a country stability.
In certain times and uncertain ones.
I cant quite describe how it does, but it does seem to.

Who will have heard of the Kardashians in 200 years time. Not many?

But Uk Royalty goes back at least 1000 years. 1500 years?

Not quite. We chopped off the king's head in 1649 and became a Commonwealth for a short time. We invited them back but got rid of them again in favour of a Dutch protestant line in what was known as the Glorious Revolution 1688. Then when Queen Anne died without an heir we imported the German Elector of Hanover as king in 1714. So in fact the British RF hasn't a long history and isn't really British.

Callistemon21 Tue 26-Mar-24 10:09:37

CoolCoco

The whole heredity titles shebang is a complete load of nonsense when you think about it. I wish the individuals in the RF no harm, but the whole circus is indefensible. People like them because they like to gawp and gossip. The trolls and the media are having a field day - I’m more comfortable with them concentrating on the likes of the Kardashians who have chosen to be in the public eye.

People like them because they like to gawp and gossip

I've said why I prefer a Monarchy to a Republic and it is certainly not to gawp and gossip. Many people feel the same, I am sure.
That is objectionable.

I take your point about the trashy Kardashians though, they have nothing to offer but their sensationalist lives (I have a vague idea who they are, don't their names all begin with K?).

Dickens Tue 26-Mar-24 09:30:21

fancythat

I think people partly like them because it helps give a country stability.
In certain times and uncertain ones.
I cant quite describe how it does, but it does seem to.

Who will have heard of the Kardashians in 200 years time. Not many?

But Uk Royalty goes back at least 1000 years. 1500 years?

I think people partly like them because it helps give a country stability.
In certain times and uncertain ones.
I cant quite describe how it does, but it does seem to.

I don't think it materially gives any stability - but what it does do is give that sense of stability.

And it is hard to describe. But, even as a republican, I found it quite 'comforting' (if that's the right word) that the late Queen was always there, in the background, stoically doing what she considered her duty regardless of what was going on around us and in the rest of the world. Maybe it's that sense of 'continuity' and an ordered life which gives one a feeling of security.

I don't really know how to explain it because it's not really logical, but whatever it is, I'm not immune to it.

Smileless2012 Tue 26-Mar-24 08:52:54

I agree that it helps fancythat. I was shocked at how much the death of the Queen genuinely upset me, as did the news that Catherine is having treatment for cancer.

fancythat Tue 26-Mar-24 08:42:32

CoolCoco

I’m not sure the stability of a country depends on having a monarchy. I can think of several countries with a royal family I wouldn’t describe as stable, and several republics which seem stable. Doesn’t seem to correlate.

I said it helps.

I wouldnt say anything usually, but this is the 3rd time in a wekk that I seem to have been partially misquoted or partially misunderstood.
And every time, concerning speaking about a Royal Family.

A Royal Family alone, isnt a total answer to a country's stability.

CoolCoco Tue 26-Mar-24 08:28:42

I’m not sure the stability of a country depends on having a monarchy. I can think of several countries with a royal family I wouldn’t describe as stable, and several republics which seem stable. Doesn’t seem to correlate.

Parsley3 Tue 26-Mar-24 08:21:42

That's the issue. Choosing to be in the public eye or, like a senior Royal, being born into a situation where your every move is scrutinised and published on the WWW and having no way out of it. Those poor little Wales children have it all before them.

fancythat Tue 26-Mar-24 08:20:26

I think people partly like them because it helps give a country stability.
In certain times and uncertain ones.
I cant quite describe how it does, but it does seem to.

Who will have heard of the Kardashians in 200 years time. Not many?

But Uk Royalty goes back at least 1000 years. 1500 years?

CoolCoco Tue 26-Mar-24 06:44:23

The whole heredity titles shebang is a complete load of nonsense when you think about it. I wish the individuals in the RF no harm, but the whole circus is indefensible. People like them because they like to gawp and gossip. The trolls and the media are having a field day - I’m more comfortable with them concentrating on the likes of the Kardashians who have chosen to be in the public eye.

Callistemon21 Mon 25-Mar-24 16:44:09

LauraNorderr

How far down the line do we have to go to get Danny Dyer?

Josh Widdecombe?

LauraNorderr Mon 25-Mar-24 16:42:12

How far down the line do we have to go to get Danny Dyer?

Callistemon21 Mon 25-Mar-24 16:36:04

Parsley3

William must feel like saying "stick the succession, I'm off." He can't, of course, but I wouldn't blame him if he did.

He won't, of course, as you say, because that would then mean his son would become King and he (or someone) would have to become Regent.

I do support the Monarchy, think it gives us a sense of continuity but, if they all wanted to give up, I'd support them in a referendum.

Of course, there may be others further down the line of succession who might want the chance of the top job.

Parsley3 Mon 25-Mar-24 13:24:13

William must feel like saying "stick the succession, I'm off." He can't, of course, but I wouldn't blame him if he did.

Bridgeit Sun 24-Mar-24 21:09:06

Well said Lesley 60.

NotSpaghetti Wed 20-Mar-24 11:31:14

Anniebach grin

Anniebach Wed 20-Mar-24 09:16:01

rplepixie Wed 20-Mar-24 08:59:37
Who cares?

Victims of the press

Purplepixie Wed 20-Mar-24 08:59:37

Who cares?

Anniebach Wed 20-Mar-24 08:58:04

The press has standards !

NotSpaghetti Wed 20-Mar-24 08:56:32

You are right, Lesley60 no one wants medical info out and about everywhere - but if the Wales family release photos to the press, surely they should meet modern press standards?
They do, after all, have their own press office. I think they have been let down by their staff who have obviously not checked they are OK for publication.

25Avalon Wed 20-Mar-24 08:54:52

It was a family photo after all and so many families do photoshop their photos and think of it as a normal thing to do. This was certainly the view I was getting from the reporter in the States. No big deal. Sadly, our press have stringent rules which were infringed.

Lesley60 Wed 20-Mar-24 00:47:59

I must admit that I’m not a Royalist, however I feel so sorry for Kate
I feel the media is on the verge of bullying her, so what if she edited the photo it wasn’t anything significant or damaging to anyone I would do this myself to most photos I take if I knew how.
And why should she disclose what operation she had it’s her personal business, I wouldn’t want my medical history spread around the world
I say leave the woman alone enough is enough

NotSpaghetti Tue 19-Mar-24 22:20:41

I suppose, Joseann the story of Queen Victoria having her double chins "burnt in" (or out) in order to minimise the shadows on them could be considered "photo editing" - but actually, when you hand-print a photo you ard editing all the time really...