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Aveline Sun 21-Apr-24 08:37:36

I was shocked recently when DD told me she had had Botox and fillers fairly regularly over the past few years. I couldn't believe it. It just feels so wrong to me that a beautiful young woman feels it necessary to pump her face full of toxins. Needless to say we argued and she told me that all women in her age group used them. Is this true? How can I have missed this?

Freya3920 Wed 30-Oct-24 12:16:48

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Jaberwok Wed 24-Apr-24 14:29:04

I think, like me, Queen Camilla has enjoyed an out door life and probably putting her face in the sun which can play havoc with your skin!! I would also suggest that, like me, she doesn't regret a moment of it! As has been said, Camillas kindness, common sense and general niceness is written in her face. But more than that, again like me, her husband loves her just as she is, and she him. Surely that's worth much more than seeking artificial eternal youth?!

rafichagran Wed 24-Apr-24 13:40:40

MI that is fine, you may be dissapointed, but keep those feelings to yourself, don't tell everyone you don't feel the
same about her, and don't make her feel she cannot talk to you about it.
You are right about one thing she does have autonomy over her own body.
Also it is not about you, they are your feelings which you are entitled to, just don't make her feel bad about it.

MissInterpreted Wed 24-Apr-24 13:31:30

But she's still entitled to her feelings. As I said earlier in the thread, I will always stand up for anyone's bodily autonomy, but you can do that and still feel disappointed that the person has felt the need to resort to those kind of treatments. My daughter is an adult, she can do what she wants with her own body and I would respect that - but that wouldn't stop me feeling upset if she felt she needed to have those kind of treatments to conform to a certain 'ideal' of beauty standards, when I think she is beautiful in her own right.

pascal30 Wed 24-Apr-24 13:25:13

rafichagran

Yes that's true MI but I make no apology for disagreeing with someone who speaks of her daughter like that.
Just because the Mother disagrees with her daughter having these procedures she should not make her daughter feel bad, or say she does not feel the same about her. I find that shocking.

me too..

rafichagran Wed 24-Apr-24 13:11:47

Yes that's true MI but I make no apology for disagreeing with someone who speaks of her daughter like that.
Just because the Mother disagrees with her daughter having these procedures she should not make her daughter feel bad, or say she does not feel the same about her. I find that shocking.

MissInterpreted Wed 24-Apr-24 13:04:47

rafichagran

Germanshepherdsmum

I thought you were being rather judgmental about ‘one or two posters’.

I judge a Mother who does not feel the same about her daughter who has had enhancements, and especially as the daughter had to keep quiet about it.
She should be proud of her lovely daughter who has made her own decisions.

Being judgemental about someone else being judgemental? Hmm....

rafichagran Wed 24-Apr-24 13:03:19

Germanshepherdsmum

I thought you were being rather judgmental about ‘one or two posters’.

I judge a Mother who does not feel the same about her daughter who has had enhancements, and especially as the daughter had to keep quiet about it.
She should be proud of her lovely daughter who has made her own decisions.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 24-Apr-24 12:56:36

I thought you were being rather judgmental about ‘one or two posters’.

rafichagran Wed 24-Apr-24 12:51:01

It was posted upthread that that a person was glad her forty something daughter liked her self not to have botox or other enhancements. I find this attitude so self satisfied.
I have, in my opinion a beutiful daughter, both inside and out.
My daughter is a single parent, a highly paid journalist who works incredibly hard to give a brilliant life for my Grandson. I only mention the above because she has had botox. She is a feminist and would not let the media influence her. Its entirely up to her. A very intelligent woman who made a researched and informed decision.
My personal view is that any Mother, whose daughter keeps quiet about her proceedure because she knows she will be judged is disgraceful, and as for not feeling the same about her daughter, I think that is alful. My daughter told me in general conversation and there was no judgement, it is her life, her decision.
I never will have botox , that is up to me. I respect my daughter enough to make her decisions in life.
One or two posters sound the the judgemental interfering Mothers/ Mothers in law that Mumsnet so often complain about.

Dickens Wed 24-Apr-24 12:27:24

hollysteers

Dickens

hollysteers

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

I disagree. I’m the same age and I’m glad my skin is not so badly wrinkled. It’s probably the result of her (heavy?) smoking.
She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

No-one, not even a Queen, has a duty not to look old.

I don't think Charles is or has been a smoker, but he shows the ravages of time in his face. Should he not also undergo a few Botox, too, as he is also in the public eye (arguably more so than his wife)?

Both make the best of their appearance as older people. Why isn't that enough?

I actually think Charles looked better as he aged and grew into his face, not so Camilla. Obviously Charles is looking rather tired and pale at the moment through his treatment.

I actually think Charles looked better as he aged and grew into his face, not so Camilla

I think it's more likely that we hold women to a different standard.

I'm not sure who they are letting-down by not having some 'work' done.

If she's happy in her skin and Charles likes her the way she is - that's really all that matters IMO.

MissInterpreted Wed 24-Apr-24 12:26:50

Taffy1234

Having Botox at young age will prevent wrinkles forming later in life.
Must admit have had as many fillers as I can afford. Seems to work for me.

If you start having treatments like that at an early age, then you have to keep up with it surely?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 24-Apr-24 11:41:46

Taffy1234

Having Botox at young age will prevent wrinkles forming later in life.
Must admit have had as many fillers as I can afford. Seems to work for me.

How can having Botox at a young age prevent wrinkles in later life? The effect wears off after a few months so you would have to keep having it done.

HeavenLeigh Wed 24-Apr-24 11:30:40

Each to their own of course but glad my mid fourty year old daughter is happy in her own skin and like myself won’t have any procedures. So many that have these procedures end up looking like clones of each other or worse 🤣

Taffy1234 Wed 24-Apr-24 11:23:45

Having Botox at young age will prevent wrinkles forming later in life.
Must admit have had as many fillers as I can afford. Seems to work for me.

pascal30 Wed 24-Apr-24 11:20:52

hollysteers

Dickens

hollysteers

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

I disagree. I’m the same age and I’m glad my skin is not so badly wrinkled. It’s probably the result of her (heavy?) smoking.
She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

No-one, not even a Queen, has a duty not to look old.

I don't think Charles is or has been a smoker, but he shows the ravages of time in his face. Should he not also undergo a few Botox, too, as he is also in the public eye (arguably more so than his wife)?

Both make the best of their appearance as older people. Why isn't that enough?

I actually think Charles looked better as he aged and grew into his face, not so Camilla. Obviously Charles is looking rather tired and pale at the moment through his treatment.

I don't agree.. I much prefer her natural and think that her humour, kindness and intelligence shines through and is much more attractive than false enhancements..

hollysteers Wed 24-Apr-24 11:02:10

Dickens

hollysteers

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

I disagree. I’m the same age and I’m glad my skin is not so badly wrinkled. It’s probably the result of her (heavy?) smoking.
She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

No-one, not even a Queen, has a duty not to look old.

I don't think Charles is or has been a smoker, but he shows the ravages of time in his face. Should he not also undergo a few Botox, too, as he is also in the public eye (arguably more so than his wife)?

Both make the best of their appearance as older people. Why isn't that enough?

I actually think Charles looked better as he aged and grew into his face, not so Camilla. Obviously Charles is looking rather tired and pale at the moment through his treatment.

MissInterpreted Wed 24-Apr-24 10:53:49

Germanshepherdsmum

They both enjoy the outdoor life and that may have been what caused wrinkles. I would prefer to see an older person comfortable in their own skin, as they both seem to be, than looking unnatural through ‘work’.

Absolutely.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 24-Apr-24 10:38:23

They both enjoy the outdoor life and that may have been what caused wrinkles. I would prefer to see an older person comfortable in their own skin, as they both seem to be, than looking unnatural through ‘work’.

Dickens Wed 24-Apr-24 10:27:42

hollysteers

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

I disagree. I’m the same age and I’m glad my skin is not so badly wrinkled. It’s probably the result of her (heavy?) smoking.
She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

No-one, not even a Queen, has a duty not to look old.

I don't think Charles is or has been a smoker, but he shows the ravages of time in his face. Should he not also undergo a few Botox, too, as he is also in the public eye (arguably more so than his wife)?

Both make the best of their appearance as older people. Why isn't that enough?

petra Wed 24-Apr-24 10:13:36

I’m thinking of 2 women I know who would be considered brain dead morons by some on this thread.
One has a senior position in her church. She has had several tweeks, some involving a scalpel.
Her friend ( a retired CEO) now a magistrate has had everything going.

Jaberwok Wed 24-Apr-24 10:02:13

Tbh, my view is that once ones children are adults it is entirely up to them whether they do or do not use beauty enhancers. My two grandaughters are lovely girls in their early 20's and neither uses anything except hair lightner and very light makeup. However if either they or my daughter chose to go further, while it might make me feel it's entirely unnecessary, even detrimental, bordering on weird, it certainly wouldn't alter my opinion of them! They'd still be the same lovely people, and as adults their beauty arrangements are simply not my business!

hollysteers Wed 24-Apr-24 10:00:11

I like to think I would not be disappointed or feel different about my daughter whatever her appearance.

hollysteers Wed 24-Apr-24 09:56:51

Jaberwok

Well for certain Queen Camilla hasn't ventured into the realms of Botex and she looks marvellous for her age, wrinkles and all! I think her hair has some help, but apart from that, nothing. I'm of the same opinion, growing old gracefully is far more peaceful.

I disagree. I’m the same age and I’m glad my skin is not so badly wrinkled. It’s probably the result of her (heavy?) smoking.
She is someone who would benefit from a few Botox (not Botex) treatments, being in the public eye, but it looks a bit late for that now…

Callistemon21 Wed 24-Apr-24 09:42:52

I rarely read the DM, which is, in my view misogynist

🤔

I'm not sure how anyone can have a view on something they don't read.