Trees Are Conscious

maddyone you are confusing cosnciousness with consciousnes with being sentient. Plants react when damaged.

britannica.com/story/do-plants-feel-painhttps://www.britannica.com/story/do-plants-feel-pain

Whitewavemark2

Yes, when I walk through woods or really anywhere where there are trees, I can feel their wisdom and gentleness. I can’t explain it, but I always come home spiritually refreshed.

Me too

Let's hope AI never gets conscious!!

It has been proven that different trees give off different energies, so the old folklore about them may well be true. Druids honoured the oak tree as a source of very positive energy. However, this does not make them sentient.

Haha, oh yes, whispering grass.

I think I’ll believe trees have consciousness when, if I speak to one, it answers me 😂

You know grass and tree do have consciousness, maddyone, you must have heard the song 😃

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D10dmK7O-KSY&ved=2ahUKEwibuLj9sd6FAxUQX0EAHZWUB98QtwJ6BAgaEAE&usg=AOvVaw1FV3s7S4Uuji6okcJGwV94

All of nature is uplifting. Being out of doors is known to be good for people. That doesn’t mean trees have consciousness, it means being in the great outdoors among nature is good for us, both physically and mentally.

I talk to the trees
But they don't listen to me 🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵

Perhaps they do 🙂

Same for me Whitewave

Yes, when I walk through woods or really anywhere where there are trees, I can feel their wisdom and gentleness. I can’t explain it, but I always come home spiritually refreshed.

I agree with Undines.

Big fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite them, and little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum

and so it is with life in all its forms. Predation has been how life developed from the earliest being with a single or small groups of cells, right up to now.

All we have to do is decide how far up the predator chain we want to go, from a group, whose name eludes me, who eat only fruit that has fallen from the tree/bush, so started the process of death and decomposition to, at the other end, cannibals, who eat human flesh.

My personal choice takes me up to vegetarian animals, who have been bred and nurtured as they would live in the wild, but with the benefit of medical care if needed. I avoid industrially bred animals and denatured food as far as is possible.

Others will make different choices.

Trees have no consciousness.

Well said, Undines.

To my mind, only something with a brain can have any consciousness.

We have a large acer, two eight foot hollies and a tulip tree in our front garden. At the back a large oak, taller than the house. Love them all and would never chop any down. Doesn’t an oak support an enormous amount of wildlife ?

RunaroundSue

I love greenery, my home is surrounded by flowering bushes of all types and they are all evergreen. I have borders full of perenial flowers and roses that have been in my garden since we married in 1967, my back and side garden borders have lots of Hydrangeas. People have remarked about the birds singing in my bushes all day long. I cannot understand why people do not have any type of greenery in their garden, everything has been paved off, not even a tub with flowers in it. None of my neighbours have flowers in their front garden, just a lawn that takes them all their time to mow it. A few planters with flowers in them would brighten everything up.

A garden with flower beds and shrubs takes quite a lot of work.

Those of us who find gardening boring and physically too tiring opt for lawns, trees and nothing more

undines

How arrogant we are as humans
Defining consciousness as something WE possess, then the ‘higher’ mammals have some consciousness going ‘down’ the chain to the vegetable kingdom and so on to ‘inert’ matter
If you are spiritually aware you can tell everything has a consciousness
As you walk through woods you can feel that trees are highly evolved wise beings
But if you only take seriously what material science (which evolves all the time and would evolve more quickly without the inherent dogmatism) then you miss so much. We all need to observe with heart and intuition in my opinion
Enjoy and preserve these wonderful ‘standing people’

beautiful and well said..

How arrogant we are as humans
Defining consciousness as something WE possess, then the ‘higher’ mammals have some consciousness going ‘down’ the chain to the vegetable kingdom and so on to ‘inert’ matter
If you are spiritually aware you can tell everything has a consciousness
As you walk through woods you can feel that trees are highly evolved wise beings
But if you only take seriously what material science (which evolves all the time and would evolve more quickly without the inherent dogmatism) then you miss so much. We all need to observe with heart and intuition in my opinion
Enjoy and preserve these wonderful ‘standing people’

Caleo

Witzend wrote:

"I will admit to feeling a little bit bad now and then, when I slice the little sprouts off a potato prior to peeling and cooking it. This is a living thing that could grow into a plant - and I’m killing it! "

Each of us must decide the values we live by, as that is the responsibility of adult human beings. Do you think that values are relative so that , for instance, it's less bad to kill and eat a plant than to kill and eat a sheep?

Neither the sheep nor the plant deserves to be killed and eaten, but the plant is less sentient than the sheep.

I think you’ve taken my post a bit too seriously, Caleo!

Orly and Maggs:

"So what are Vegans going to do now. If plants have a consciousness then it's cruel to eat them too."

It's the burden that humans have to bear, that we must create our own moral principles . If there is a God, then He will not expect us to be perfect only to try to make the best choices.

So what are Vegans going to do now. If plants have a consciousness then it's cruel to eat them too.

keepcalmandcavachon

Wonder just what the 'olden oaks' would make of mankind's progress during their lifetimes....

...and what had mankind made of the "olden oaks" - tables, chairs, church pews?

Caleo

All things that strive to live are conscious.

Artificial intelligence things don't strive to live so those are not conscious.

But it is AI that will launch the missiles that finish us off and if plant life if "conscious" what are the vegans and vegetarians going to eat now?

By the year 2024 we have managed to invent off shore floating prisons.

Nothing new under the sun.

The Druids were aware of this eons ago.