34 year old assisted euthanasia

But why did she feel the need to involve someone else?
(presumably a doctor or clinic) why not just do it there’s plenty of ways, people are committing suicide every day
How was someone helping her she sounds physically fit enough to take a bottle full of pills without any need of help
I think it’s a difficult one to insist on saving someone who doesn’t want to be saved but to be honest I ve never heard of anyone announcing their death pre it happening Most suicides are very secretive that’s why people are found in sheds, woods, empty areas

Is there a link I haven’t read anything about it ?

Our young friend attempted suicide twice and was found before he died,taken to hospital to recover from injuries ,given counselling and sent home ...twice.He left the hospital the second time and took his life within half an hour.Nothing would have stopped him,he didn't want to be here,for reasons that were his own.

He was just 23 .
Should he have been locked away for "his own good"?What if even that didn't stop the pain that he needed to end.? Sadly we'll never know but in the end it was HIS decision and his alone ,we all miss him even 16 years on ,he knew he was much loved but it wasn't enough to save him.
He would have kept on trying and being brought back to face a life he didn't want,who are we to judge ?

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/boyfriend-woman-34-seeking-euthanasia-32678817

It's been in almost every newspaper, Bluebelle

MissInterpreted

I read her story and found it very sad, but at the end of the day, what is the better option - assisted dying/euthanasia, or if she is desperate enough, leaving her to attempt suicide on her own? As pascal30 says, if someone is determined enough, they will find a way.

In a case like this, if she is determined enough to end her life then it’s her choice but I don’t see why others should do it for her.
What she needs is real help for her MH.

Why should anyone get it done for them, if that's the case?

To ensure it's done properly, with no margin for mistakes, presumably?

Not everyone could do it for themselves - for instance they may be paralysed or have no access to ‘the means’.

That's the problem here, isn't it?
Getting someone else to take you to Switzerland, but proving it is your own choice, so that they don't get charged with killing you.

MissAdventure

Why should anyone get it done for them, if that's the case?

To ensure it's done properly, with no margin for mistakes, presumably?

Exactly.

This just expresses what a dire state our society is in that we allow people to kill those suffering from mental illness?

Where is the care this girl needs for pity's sake?

Every life has value and should be valued regardless of how ill or healthy they are.

I just feel such sorrow reading stuff like this.

She was from The Netherlands, not the UK.

keepingquiet

This just expresses what a dire state our society is in that we allow people to kill those suffering from mental illness?

Where is the care this girl needs for pity's sake?

Every life has value and should be valued regardless of how ill or healthy they are.

I just feel such sorrow reading stuff like this.

Although she wasn't from the UK, I share your sorrow. MH has always been the poor relation. The stigma and taboo and shame continue to this day.
Apart from the cruelty of not helping people, if they were given the righht support at the right time, they could be productive members of society.

Do we know she has ever received support from MH?

Yes, a lot.

Thank you GSM, I have just found the link, sad case.

Without detailed knowledge of the person involved and her state of mind as well as health I don’t think anybody should speculate as to whether this was/is right or not.

I think assisted suicide should be for terminally ill people, not a young woman with depression. It is desperately sad she feels so broken though, if you feel loneliness inside it doesn’t matter how busy your daily life is. I wonder if there has been any treatment for her depression.

A great deal, over the years, apparently.
None of which has helped her.

I find myself unable to judge this young woman’s decision to end her life. She’s had support for mh but remains desperate to end her life. Assisted suicide involves detailed discussion and ensures the individual dies in comfort.
I definitely agree assisted suicide should be available to people facing painful degrading death

Years ago I saw on "this morning" or some programme, the situation where two very young men had been paralysed in sporting activities.

One got straight on with his new life, finding different ways to do the things he always had, without the slightest, fleeting thought about ending things.

The other, within a few months, had gone to Switzerland and and taken the euthanasia option.

It's impossible to say what anyone of us would feel like, or do, I suppose, without being in the situation.

No wrong or right.

Depression comes in many forms from down times to the black hole which engulfs one. I was with a charity which manned phone lines, one could ring anytime , always someone there.I don’t know now if there are flying squads too, someone phoning about to jump under a train or off a building , phone
liner would phone squad and that person who go immediately
to try to help, often with success so it was a cry for help, but some jumped
We must never judge or compare these horrific happenings,
mental illness can strike anyone

I must sound like a tv addict, but I watched a 999 episode of the ambulance people dealing with a man who was intent on jumping from somewhere.

They did coax him round, and he was interviewed later, and said that he his partner had ended things, he had a lot going wrong all at once; work, money, the break up, that he felt absolutely desperate at that time and could see no other way out.

It's a testament to the so caring ambulance heroes that he was persuaded to seek help.

The point being made was that really, they are out of their depth with this kind of call.

The fact is that depression can be "terminal". Treatments don't work for some people. If someone is suicidal and can't be helped with treatment, that's pretty terminal.

The reason why a clinic is preferable to "do it yourself" is that most of the time "diy" forces you to involve unwilling people and is often very messy. A friend committed suicide when I was in high school and was found by her sister. If they have no loved ones, a stranger will find them eventually. That person didn't ask for that trauma. If suicide is inevitable for a very sick person, bringing it to a professional is the responsible and kind thing to do.

Getting help is hard. Getting good help is almost impossible for some people. Sometimes the mental health conditions make it 100 times harder to seek that help.

I have suffered and still suffer from mental health conditions that can make life as unbearable as any terrible physical conditions. On top of that, people downplay, mock, and stigmatize invisible illnesses. Society as a whole looks down on people who can't keep up with healthy neurotypicals. The more we try to keep up, the more we neglect our mental health. And then we can't keep a job or pay bills.

Therapy is mocked openly, but is the only solution offered if medications don't work. People who need therapy are told they don't need it because of this internalized stigma surrounding mental health.

I'm safe and treatment helps me enough to get by, so despite my strong feelings I'm not in danger. But I understand the desire to do this, and I sincerely hope the world can develop more empathy for people who suffer from mental health conditions. The stigma makes it harder to recover and a little understanding and kindness to people goes a long way.

Does it help you to talk openly about it?

Is this kind of discussion uncomfortable for you, if you don't mind me asking?

MissAdventure- I think we seriously do need to talk about it.
More than that we need to provide proper help and services for those suffering.

So sorry you are suffering such mental health problems User138562 life must be very difficult for you. Your post resonated with me and I hope helped others to understand that mental health issues are just as traumatising as physical health problems.
I hope you find the strength to deal with it all.