My 4mo grandson cries relentlessly

Please come back Jewelrnca and let us know if you have tried using a baby sling/carrier?

I have read that baby massage can be helpful.
Some have the equivalent of indigestion, and massaging them in a particular was can help "untangle", and relax their insides.

The baby who died was 9 months old. Far too old to be swaddled. Must be like being put in a strait jacket.

I think swaddling was mentioned here before.

It is all over YouTube, with hints and tips and methods.

It was very definitely a terrible thing to do in the 80s, when I had my daughter.

Primrose53

The baby who died was 9 months old. Far too old to be swaddled. Must be like being put in a strait jacket.

That is tragic Primrose

I never swaddled mine, it was recommended when DGS was born but I don't think DD tried it more than a couple of times. It seems unnatural.

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Yes, I used to put my girl on her tummy, and she would lift her head and rest it on the edge of the pram to look out.

She looked like a very small alien, in a bonnet.

I remember rolling a blanket and putting it behind her to prop her on her side.

I felt as if I was committing a crime!

MissAdventure

I remember rolling a blanket and putting it behind her to prop her on her side.

I felt as if I was committing a crime!

Yes, that's what we were told to do in the 1980s!

Mine used to wriggle and wriggle until she was lying on her back anyway so I gave in and abandoned the blanket.

MissAdventure

Yes, I used to put my girl on her tummy, and she would lift her head and rest it on the edge of the pram to look out.

She looked like a very small alien, in a bonnet.

She looked like a very small alien, in a bonnet.
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My oldest looked like my MIL in a bonnet

MissAdventure

I have read that baby massage can be helpful.
Some have the equivalent of indigestion, and massaging them in a particular was can help "untangle", and relax their insides.

I have heard this also. I do believe that a baby will pick up on the mother’s ‘energy’, and if she is tense or agitated ( which is totally natural if you’re thinking ‘ here we go again’), leading to more crying, and the mother jiggling the baby more and more!

The Bodach’s mother was terrified of our babies, only wanting to hold them for a photo, and they nearly always started crying as soon as she held them ( or else they were very good judges of character at an early age).

Perhaps they were?
It's an interesting concept, considering how physically helpless a baby is.

Maybe they have an inbuilt sense of pleasant or unpleasant people?

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Sorry- sp. Esmay

I second the suggestion by Patsy 70 of a treatment by a cranial osteopath.

The thing is we know the baby doesn't do this at home - he doesn't even do it with Jewelrnca's husband.

This crying is, unfortunately specific to Jewelrnca - and she's come here for ideas.

Logically it's not going to require a dietary change or a cranial osteopath, or a GP check-up even.
This seems to me to be about how the baby is with his grandmother.

I still think I'd try a baby sling. I'd also see exactly how her husband holds the baby. I might try wearing my husband's jumper... I think this is probably about security somehow.

Notspaghetti 👍🏻

Out of the box question. My baby cried and screamed with granny who was heavy on makeup and very heavy on perfume.
As an adult, uses unscented products.

That's interesting....makeup and perfume. Does the mum use a different or no perfume? What about the dad and grandad? Same aftershave, deodorant? Worth a thought.

I was wondering about perfume as well - even strong soap/shower gel can upset some babies. They have a very acute sense of smell.

Look around for a baby massage class, they are being run for mothers and carers in a lot of places at the moment they are free and usually run by health visitors . My DD found it very helpful in helping to sooth her baby who was a crying baby. She also was advised by the HV of a product to help thicken his milk which helped. I'm sorry not sure of the name.

Feelingmyage55

Out of the box question. My baby cried and screamed with granny who was heavy on makeup and very heavy on perfume.
As an adult, uses unscented products.

That's a thought!
I used to have a lift with a friend who wore one of those very strong perfumes, Opium or Poison or similar.
Truly awful and it gave me a headache and made me feel quite ill.

Yes, HelterSkelter1 could be.

Left or right handed cuddles might be worth considering.

The more anxious and stressed Jewelrnca is, the more the baby will pick up on that and become stressed resulting in feeling anxious and crying.