Do politicians need sex appeal to be successful in these social media times?

MayBee70

Well, he is further left in a way in that, unlike Corbyn he is actually from a working class background. So imo he has proper socialist values but is pragmatic about how far to implement them.

Corbyn was middle-class, not upper class.
His mother went to university which was fairly unusual for women in those days, but she did work as a teacher.

MayBee70

Well, he is further left in a way in that, unlike Corbyn he is actually from a working class background. So imo he has proper socialist values but is pragmatic about how far to implement them.

Starmer always likes to make out that he came from a humble background and says his father was a toolmaker.

He’s telling porkies, because his father actually owned the company which was called The Oxted Tool Company so not quite as lowly as KS would have us believe.

I find that a common theme with many lefties but they usually get found out. 😉

If that were at all true Chestnut Starmer would not be putting forward a policy platform with clearly outlined centrist policies.
I'm an insider and Corbyn was and has always been to the far left of the party.

Well, he is further left in a way in that, unlike Corbyn he is actually from a working class background. So imo he has proper socialist values but is pragmatic about how far to implement them.

Casdon

Chestnut

pascal30 Keir Starmer is further left than Corbyn which I think we will soon find out. He also doesn't know what a woman is.

Now that really is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day!
Seriously you’re clearly somebody who doesn’t follow the internal politics of the Labour Party at all.

Quite Casdon...

Chestnut

pascal30 Keir Starmer is further left than Corbyn which I think we will soon find out. He also doesn't know what a woman is.

Now that really is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day!
Seriously you’re clearly somebody who doesn’t follow the internal politics of the Labour Party at all.

Dickens

Chestnut

pascal30 Keir Starmer is further left than Corbyn which I think we will soon find out. He also doesn't know what a woman is.

Keir Starmer is further left than Corbyn...

Is he?

How?

We'll probably just have to wait and see, and if he becomes PM then watch that space.

I think so many celebrities have had dental work and have such white, even teeth, it has made us very aware of teeth in general. Back in the 20thC we just accepted people's looks including their teeth (unless you were a movie star). Now it seems we criticise anyone who has less than perfect teeth, which is a shame because I'd rather people kept their natural faces. It's what makes us individual.

Dickens

Joseann

Smiling is good for politicians, if they have good teeth. Obama had an engaging smile with perfect teeth, I think Biden has had lots of dentistry. Nigel Farage has fangs. I wonder where the teeth factor comes in the sex appeal list?
I can't remember, but is it Starmer who wants supervised teeth brushing in schools?

Nigel Farage has fangs.

... I shouldn't, but I did 🤣🤣

It was just the way it was slipped in with the other comments on Obama and Biden!

🤣 🤣
Random, that's me Dickens!

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Compared with Biden.
They're not very well aligned either.

Does NF have fangs? I always thought he has fairly even square teeth.

Joseann

Smiling is good for politicians, if they have good teeth. Obama had an engaging smile with perfect teeth, I think Biden has had lots of dentistry. Nigel Farage has fangs. I wonder where the teeth factor comes in the sex appeal list?
I can't remember, but is it Starmer who wants supervised teeth brushing in schools?

Nigel Farage has fangs.

... I shouldn't, but I did 🤣🤣

It was just the way it was slipped in with the other comments on Obama and Biden!

Smiling is good for politicians, if they have good teeth. Obama had an engaging smile with perfect teeth, I think Biden has had lots of dentistry. Nigel Farage has fangs. I wonder where the teeth factor comes in the sex appeal list?
I can't remember, but is it Starmer who wants supervised teeth brushing in schools?

One politician who lost out because of his looks was Gordon Brown. An honest, caring politician whose face was his downfall. He simply looked miserable. That might not have been too bad, but some stupid advisor must have told him he had to smile. The result was worse. Poor man.

Any chance him visiting Kent soon

MissAdventure

He could wear stockings, suspenders, and a feather boa, for all I care.
He didn't have "it" at all.

Oh, no! Can you imagine it? I found him quite repulsive, along with Cyril Smith. 😱 We need a PM who is honest, extremely intelligent, has integrity, eloquent, confident, a smart dresser, a strong leader ……….. So many requirements, but I don’t see these in any contender.

Dickens

Joseann

I find it a bit ironic that Starmer chose to be a pin up for Vogue, a glossy fashion magazine for affluent, fashion-loving 30 - 40 year old wealthy women. The magazine is all about catwalk shows and expensive handbags. Maybe he himself thinks he has sex appeal?

I'd imagine that any party leader would jump at the opportunity to sell himself and his party to a wider audience, whichever side of the track they are from.

'Class' is complex: it's no longer "us" and "them" is it? Both Labour and Conservatives have to appeal to as wide an audience as possible as both profess to be working for the people, the country, as a whole rather than the narrow confines of rich or poor.

I don't find Starmer on the cover of Vogue any more strange than seeing Boris Johnson when he was campaigning being photographed wearing a Tesco high-viz jacket carrying a tray of groceries.

Why would Starmer not want to win over 30 - 40 year old affluent women who buy expensive handbags?!

Perhaps we have a different understanding of integrity. It seems he wants to be all things to everyone. I lament losing Caroline Lucas.. now there was true integrity..

Chestnut

pascal30 Keir Starmer is further left than Corbyn which I think we will soon find out. He also doesn't know what a woman is.

Keir Starmer is further left than Corbyn...

Is he?

How?

Joseann

I find it a bit ironic that Starmer chose to be a pin up for Vogue, a glossy fashion magazine for affluent, fashion-loving 30 - 40 year old wealthy women. The magazine is all about catwalk shows and expensive handbags. Maybe he himself thinks he has sex appeal?

I'd imagine that any party leader would jump at the opportunity to sell himself and his party to a wider audience, whichever side of the track they are from.

'Class' is complex: it's no longer "us" and "them" is it? Both Labour and Conservatives have to appeal to as wide an audience as possible as both profess to be working for the people, the country, as a whole rather than the narrow confines of rich or poor.

I don't find Starmer on the cover of Vogue any more strange than seeing Boris Johnson when he was campaigning being photographed wearing a Tesco high-viz jacket carrying a tray of groceries.

Why would Starmer not want to win over 30 - 40 year old affluent women who buy expensive handbags?!

pascal30 Keir Starmer is further left than Corbyn which I think we will soon find out. He also doesn't know what a woman is.

Joseann

I find it a bit ironic that Starmer chose to be a pin up for Vogue, a glossy fashion magazine for affluent, fashion-loving 30 - 40 year old wealthy women. The magazine is all about catwalk shows and expensive handbags. Maybe he himself thinks he has sex appeal?

It's certainly a weird choice for a labour MP.. he's rather right of middle I think..

I find it a bit ironic that Starmer chose to be a pin up for Vogue, a glossy fashion magazine for affluent, fashion-loving 30 - 40 year old wealthy women. The magazine is all about catwalk shows and expensive handbags. Maybe he himself thinks he has sex appeal?

I find Keir Starmer 's intelligence appealing.

MissAdventure

He could wear stockings, suspenders, and a feather boa, for all I care.
He didn't have "it" at all.

I saw him up close and personal.

He opened a shop in Richmond, Surrey - a tiny shop down a side-alley selling 'bespoke' shirts, and worked in it himself. I was peering through the window at the neatly arranged goods when suddenly his face loomed up - he'd been placing a shirt strategically in the window. He was wearing the most enormous glasses.

The shop didn't last very long.

He could wear stockings, suspenders, and a feather boa, for all I care.
He didn't have "it" at all.