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If you can manage financially - would you pay more tax, for better public services?

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Applegran Wed 29-May-24 14:11:35

I know tax is a challenging topic and both the main parties keep their heads down and say that they will not raise taxes, or will cut them further. I know few people love paying tax - but I have read more than one extremely rich person saying 'tax the rich more! We need better public services, roads, schools, environmental care.......and more!' This is a rich person asking to contribute more for the sake of the country they live in.
I am not extremely rich! but I am ok and grateful that I have a roof over my head, and do not worry about having enough food. And I would be glad to pay more tax. Tax which could give young children a better start in life, which could help people living in poverty, older people who are struggling to make ends meet, caring for the environment......we could all make a long list of things we'd like to see. And they (mostly) cost money - money from tax payers. So I'd vote to pay more tax. And also to go all out to get money from the rich tax evaders, who get away with paying too little tax, because they can. Do they ever think about the needs of others who have too little? Maybe they will........if we have any fabulously rich people on GN reading this!

GrannyGravy13 Wed 29-May-24 14:16:43

No I think 40% is more than enough after a lifetime of working, thank you.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-May-24 14:17:37

I definitely am of the school that you don’t run a civilised country on a shoestring.

So yes I would certainly pay more if the need arose. I have a generous pension, have always had a well laid career so see no possible reason why I should not pay towards a better society for those less well off, or indeed for all our children in education, for everyone for their health needs and I would like to see the elderly bettered cared for - social care needs sorting.

Rekarie Wed 29-May-24 14:19:07

GrannyGravy13

No I think 40% is more than enough after a lifetime of working, thank you.

Hear, hear

fancythat Wed 29-May-24 14:19:48

No.

I dont trust anyone to spend it on precisely what they say they will spend it on.

Grantanow Wed 29-May-24 14:21:41

Yes if it were directed only to the NHS.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 29-May-24 14:21:49

I heartily agree GrannyGravy.

Wyllow3 Wed 29-May-24 14:25:02

Yes with reservations for NHS and Social Care.

Cheesey Wed 29-May-24 14:32:23

Yes I definitely would.
Whitewavemark2 put it perfectly.

biglouis Wed 29-May-24 14:35:00

Agree 100% with GrannyGravy13.

Ive paid more than my share in to subsidise other people's families and their childbearing activites.

If taxes go up by X% I increase my business expenses and declare a lower profit to account for the increase. If I was on PAYE I would just get shafted.

Tiley Wed 29-May-24 14:39:40

No having paid tax all our working lives, at times at higher rate and still paying tax now in retirement I wouldn't be in agreement in paying any more. Feel we've done our bit.

M0nica Wed 29-May-24 14:59:44

Yes

Redhead56 Wed 29-May-24 15:06:22

No we have worked and paid taxes all our life some people have not worked or paid taxes but still get the same services.
Even as pensioners we are paying tax so why should we pay more.

Wheniwasyourage Wed 29-May-24 15:07:35

Yes

NotSpaghetti Wed 29-May-24 15:11:14

Yes, in a heartbeat.

LottieLouise Wed 29-May-24 15:14:15

Until the money from our taxes goes to help the people from the towns and cities who have paid tax into this countries tax system and not to immigrants who are mainly benefit seekers then no, I do not want to pay more tax. We would not be in this mess if we had not overcrowded our country. This also goes for all the other countries that has done the same and are now regretting it. Our NHS has fallen apart due to it being overloaded with people who do not work and are on benefits. I am 81 and pay tax because I am just over the threshold for claiming benefits, once I have paid for dental treatment, optical treatment etc. I am worse off than people who claim benefits, all because I saved into a small private pension. This world has gone to hell in a hand basket.

growstuff Wed 29-May-24 15:17:44

biglouis

Agree 100% with GrannyGravy13.

Ive paid more than my share in to subsidise other people's families and their childbearing activites.

If taxes go up by X% I increase my business expenses and declare a lower profit to account for the increase. If I was on PAYE I would just get shafted.

So you cheat! I guess you don't have a conscience.

Cossy Wed 29-May-24 15:18:01

We are “comfortable” not in any way wealthy but are mortgage free, both retired with modest, but meaningful private pensions, modest savings and we would both pay higher taxes in return for better, more effective and efficient public services and to give public sector workers meaningful pay increases.

keepcalmandcavachon Wed 29-May-24 15:20:25

Yes .

growstuff Wed 29-May-24 15:21:28

LottieLouise

Until the money from our taxes goes to help the people from the towns and cities who have paid tax into this countries tax system and not to immigrants who are mainly benefit seekers then no, I do not want to pay more tax. We would not be in this mess if we had not overcrowded our country. This also goes for all the other countries that has done the same and are now regretting it. Our NHS has fallen apart due to it being overloaded with people who do not work and are on benefits. I am 81 and pay tax because I am just over the threshold for claiming benefits, once I have paid for dental treatment, optical treatment etc. I am worse off than people who claim benefits, all because I saved into a small private pension. This world has gone to hell in a hand basket.

Most taxes don't go to immigrants or benefit seekers.

If you are just over the threshold for claiming benefits, you hardly pay any tax.

Incidentally, my pension is over the limit for claiming Pension Credit, I pay income tax but I don't pay for dental or optical treatment because I have an NHS Low Income certificate - maybe you should investigate.

growstuff Wed 29-May-24 15:23:15

You could genuinely claim that the world (country) had gone to hell in a handcart, if there were no public services (eg NHS). This country is nowhere near that stage yet.

growstuff Wed 29-May-24 15:24:04

GrannyGravy13

No I think 40% is more than enough after a lifetime of working, thank you.

But you wouldn't pay 40% on your whole income.

pascal30 Wed 29-May-24 15:25:15

I would if it was specifically directed towards environmental issues, the NHS and social services but I don't believe it would be spent to benefit those areas..

Ziplok Wed 29-May-24 15:30:08

No, I pay quite enough already on my lowish pension. It’s hard enough coping with all the other regular increases (that we have no say on, they just happen - water, heating, council tax, food, petrol for example), without then having the burden of even more taxation on our pensions or savings (if you have any).
So much money is wasted/lost on seemingly frivolous things and on unworkable ideas such as the Rwanda one, on false expenses claims and other fraudulent behaviour etc, etc. Sort these things out first and use money saved more effectively before taking yet more off the general population.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 29-May-24 15:34:01

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

No I think 40% is more than enough after a lifetime of working, thank you.

But you wouldn't pay 40% on your whole income.

growstuff I know what percentage of my income I pay 40% tax on, as does HMRC.

I like many others do not want to pay any more tax, thank you.