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Will you watch tonight’s debate on BBC at 7:30pm?

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Urmstongran Fri 07-Jun-24 16:37:40

I’m going to give it a go but to be honest 7 pundits might be a bit much. Not sure 90 minutes of shouting and getting in digs and sound bites will be in any way particularly informative.

What do you think?

Nicenanny3 Sat 08-Jun-24 08:19:21

Well The Telegraph declares Nigel Farage won the debate (over 17000 plus voted)

Casdon Sat 08-Jun-24 08:09:37

Freya5

Casdon

He made no sense to me Calendargirl, it’s was all sound bites and sneering at everybody else. I don’t think he mentioned Reform’s plans once.

Let's face it,if he came out with the most sensible, good for the country manifesto, you would still hate the man.

I was talking about his performance on the programme though Freya5. Did you hear him mention what Reform’s plans were at all, I’m happy to wind back and watch it again if you can tell me where he did?

Calendargirl Sat 08-Jun-24 08:06:15

keepingquiet

He is also aware he won't get the seat (again) more to the point he doesn't want it- too much work. Meanwhile he'll carry on being courted by the media for heaven knows what reason. It was a waste of time him being there.

I disagree. I thought Nigel being there was quite useful, lending a different perspective to proceedings.

No, I doubt he’ll get elected and shouldn’t think he wants to, but he made some valid points.

We just have to wait for the manifestos to see how all these proposed savings of billions will be made, everything ‘fully funded’ and ‘fully costed’.

hmm

Freya5 Sat 08-Jun-24 08:05:13

Casdon

He made no sense to me Calendargirl, it’s was all sound bites and sneering at everybody else. I don’t think he mentioned Reform’s plans once.

Let's face it,if he came out with the most sensible, good for the country manifesto, you would still hate the man.

Elrel Fri 07-Jun-24 23:42:09

After years of waiting for Labour’s comeback the programme pushed me towards Green with Lib Dem second and third a wish I lived in either Scotland or Wales.

maddyone Fri 07-Jun-24 23:39:16

I like Penny Mordaunt and I was pleased to see Angela Rayner and her shake hands at the end.

As for the policies of the five minor Parties, it doesn’t matter a fig, none of them will be in power.

maddyone Fri 07-Jun-24 23:34:59

Urmstongran

^Angela Raynor (sic) does have beautiful hair^
It’s extensions - and not very good ones considering the disposable income she has!

Sorry - Angela Rayner

You’ve disappointed me now Urms, I really thought her hair is real.

MayBee70 Fri 07-Jun-24 22:53:00

grumppa

Good to see Mordaunt and Rayner shaking hands as the credits rolled, but as a programne a waste of space.

I think most MP’s get on well with Mordaunt who usually comes across as pretty fair. I don’t think she performed very well, really lost her cool and kept lying about the £2,000. I’m glad that someone described Farage as a snake oil salesman because that’s exactly what he is.

mae13 Fri 07-Jun-24 22:36:33

Penny Mordant's hair helmet was mesmerising. It was the star of the debate.
How many cans of ShockWaves hairspray did she get through?

(At least she didn't keep roaring at the audience to "Stand Up And Fight!" as she did at last year's party conference.)

GrandmaKT Fri 07-Jun-24 22:15:47

maddyone

I thought Blair had flair was quite funny.
I don’t think Penny Mordaunt has a wig on; I think she’s been to the hairdresser this afternoon and she’s got too much volume in her hairstyle and too much hairspray on.
Angela Raynor does have beautiful hair.

Yes, I noticed Farage mentioned Blair several times, and you can bet your life there is method behind it. Is he playing on the fact that Blair is very unpopular with lots of voters and trying to draw a connection between him and the current Labour party?

Grantanow Fri 07-Jun-24 22:13:22

No, I watched Gardeners World.

grumppa Fri 07-Jun-24 22:07:21

Good to see Mordaunt and Rayner shaking hands as the credits rolled, but as a programne a waste of space.

winterwhite Fri 07-Jun-24 22:02:52

Don’t know why so many people felt supercilious about this. Come on, it’s only a month after five years….

I watched the whole thing. I thought the most unexpected and cheering thing was the applause which greeted the statement by the SNP man that immigration should not be demonised, because Britain needs migrants. Counter arguments by Farage met with silence.

The questions were chosen to be mainstream and the answers predictable.
Penny Mordaunt started well but then got very angry and unappealing. Was surprised she harped on about the £200k again. Kept interrupting Angela Rayner.
Angela Rayner was disappointing. Got too bogged down in arguing with PM. A mistake I thought to have them next to one another like that - bound to make things worse, as it did.

So it was dominated by Tory and Labour. Would like to see a forum where the smaller parties could set out their policies.

keepingquiet Fri 07-Jun-24 21:53:44

He is also aware he won't get the seat (again) more to the point he doesn't want it- too much work. Meanwhile he'll carry on being courted by the media for heaven knows what reason. It was a waste of time him being there.

Casdon Fri 07-Jun-24 21:51:11

Is that an excuse not to mention at all what your party’s policies are Calendargirl? All the other parties did, and they are important if you want people to vote for you. I just wonder if they exist, and I’m sure I’m not alone in that.

Calendargirl Fri 07-Jun-24 21:45:07

Well, the policies of anyone apart from Labour and Conservative are irrelevant as they won’t get a chance to implement anything.

Nigel is well aware of that.

Wyllow3 Fri 07-Jun-24 21:42:39

What struck me on Farage was the same as Casdon, he didn't say what Reform policy was. At no point.

I felt it was a bit pointless as people say quick policy soundbites mostly attacking/defending nothing new.

Siope Fri 07-Jun-24 21:41:41

I’m still not sure I learned much that’s new. I was impressed by Rhun ap Iorwerth, and delighted that both he and Stephen Flynn were truthful about the benefits of immigration, and the disastrous results of Brexit.

Since I can’t vote for either Plaid or the SNP, being impressed by them isn’t as helpful as it could be.

Iam64 Fri 07-Jun-24 21:38:18

Posted with you calendar girl
Other than low level crime I disagreed with Farage. I also didn’t hear policies just criticism of every one else

Casdon Fri 07-Jun-24 21:35:21

He made no sense to me Calendargirl, it’s was all sound bites and sneering at everybody else. I don’t think he mentioned Reform’s plans once.

Iam64 Fri 07-Jun-24 21:34:14

Casdon you’re right on Farage. I loathe him, disagree on everything -‘but I agree on so called low level crime. Didn’t an nyc mayor insist low level crime should be a prime focus. The result was it also lowered more serious crime

I’d have liked the facilitator to have intervened more to focus on questions

Penny Mordant has some brass neck 20,000 more police officers 🤣🙈

Calendargirl Fri 07-Jun-24 21:31:05

A lot of what Nigel said made sense though.

Cossy Fri 07-Jun-24 21:30:44

Urmstongran

^Angela Raynor (sic) does have beautiful hair^
It’s extensions - and not very good ones considering the disposable income she has!

Meow!!

Cossy Fri 07-Jun-24 21:30:19

No thanks, much as it does interest me, I cannot abide all the shouting and interruption

Casdon Fri 07-Jun-24 21:27:54

Farage was over-acting, and his facial expressions when other people were talking were hilarious. By the end I realised who it was he reminded me of - Mrs Slocombe. He really is a prime example of all mouth and no trousers.