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RosiesMaw Sun 09-Jun-24 19:16:30

Not a problem I have experienced before but since my knees decided to go on strike I have become aware of how LOW some (public) loo seats are.
I had the pleasure of the loos at Euston Station, Pizza Express in St Martins Lane and the Coliseum yesterday.
There was no way I could have used the disabled loos (radar keys needed) but normally I have no compunction about using one if available and free, the seats are higher and there is usually a bar or something to help you stand up again.
So the verdict
Euston 8/10 . Fine, nothing to help me up but I coped.
Pizza Express 7/10 A bit lower but a strategically positioned loo roll box helped me steady myself
The Coliseum -4/10, I really thought I was there for the night. The lowest loo I have ever encountered, it would have suited a 5 year-old . Nothing on the sides of the cubicle to help either.
I kept telling myself “You can do this” , leaning forward and trying to stand upright but failing.

Clearly from the fact that I am here, I did effect an eventual escape but only after some uncomfortable moments.
I’m not yet at the stage of needing the sort of raised loo seat frame with arm rests that DH had in his last years , but
Down with dodgy knees and UP with loos .

(Please.)

Franbern Fri 14-Jun-24 18:05:08

I thought it was illegal to lock the door to loos for the disabled,. As I understand it, these should be available to all those who need to use them whether or not they carry a special key.

At home, when I had my en-suite refitted I had a comfort height loo put in there and do feel the benefit. If I use toilets in other peoples homes, I can really notice the difference.

choughdancer Fri 14-Jun-24 18:15:05

I'm a hoverer too, and much prefer them to be on the low side, as I'm only 5ft. I definitely can't hover over a higher disability one.

If I absolutely HAVE to sit on a public loo, I clean the seat with loo paper squirted with soap, then with water, then dry; I just can't bear the thought of sitting on them uncleaned. I did the same for my children too once they got too heavy to be held above them.

40 odd years ago I lived for a while in the Middle East, and hated the hole in the floor ones. I had to spend time in hospital a couple of times, and dreaded having to have to use them; they always seemed to be swimming with water, and it was hard to keep my dressing gown out of it. Most of the other ladies were wearing abayas; not sure how they managed!

I'm sure I've exaggerated it in my mind, but I still often dream about needing a loo, and searching through endless areas of filthy holes in the floor trying to find somewhere acceptable. Often these dreams end in me sitting on the loo after I've found it, only to see that the walls all around me are made of glass!

Apologies if I've put anyone off their tea!

hduz5 Mon 14-Oct-24 14:29:31

Hi Everyone.

Ellen from Blue Badge Company here. We sell official radar keys on our website:
www.bluebadgecompany.co.uk/products/genuine-radar-disabled-toilet-key-with-blue-heart-comfort-grip

As mentioned earlier on the thread the keys are intended for disabled users, however you do not have to be registered disabled to purchase a key.

We recommend avoiding the cheap non official keys on eBay as non official keys will not work in all locks.

If you have any questions please let me know, we are always happy to share information regarding radar keys.

Thanks

Mt61 Mon 14-Oct-24 15:22:39

Visited boundry mill in Colne, Lancashire, gosh the loos were like what they have in a nursery 😩

Mt61 Mon 14-Oct-24 15:23:48

hduz5

Hi Everyone.

Ellen from Blue Badge Company here. We sell official radar keys on our website:
www.bluebadgecompany.co.uk/products/genuine-radar-disabled-toilet-key-with-blue-heart-comfort-grip

As mentioned earlier on the thread the keys are intended for disabled users, however you do not have to be registered disabled to purchase a key.

We recommend avoiding the cheap non official keys on eBay as non official keys will not work in all locks.

If you have any questions please let me know, we are always happy to share information regarding radar keys.

Thanks

I bought mine on line Amazon,

TheWeirdo Mon 14-Oct-24 15:27:50

I don't have any sort of physical disablement but I do have back problems for being a carer in a home for the disabled and I've noticed just how low some loos are and if my back is killing me at the time it can be awkward to bend low enough for them, then having to swing back and forth with arms stretched out to try to stand up!

Admitting to a sin here, I've actually bought a RADAR key and will use it when possible because the seats are higher!

baubles Mon 14-Oct-24 15:33:44

I have a question about radar keys. Why isn’t there a way of locking the door from the inside?

I have a radar key which I got from Disability Rights UK as I have a condition which is considered to be a disability.
I tried out a disabled toilet and, with the help of my husband, discovered that when I was inside he was able to unlock the door from the outside using my key as there wasn’t any means of securing it from inside.

I haven’t used it since which is an inconvenience.

Auntieflo Mon 14-Oct-24 15:38:11

Baubles, it could be a safety thing. If, perhaps you were taken ill inside the loo, then you could be got out!

Auntieflo Mon 14-Oct-24 15:57:46

I don't know if RosesMaw still is on GN, but I have found when loos are low, and I haven't got a convenient point to use as a push up, that by putting your hand, between your legs, onto the loo seat and pressing down, gives you the leverage to get up.
Not elegant, but needs must!

baubles Mon 14-Oct-24 16:07:31

Auntieflo, yes probably but sadly the world and his wife could also get in at any time which makes the visit a tad stressful.

Perhaps I should get an ‘Occupied’ sign made and stick it on the outside of the door.

Marydoll Mon 14-Oct-24 16:30:25

baubles

*Auntieflo*, yes probably but sadly the world and his wife could also get in at any time which makes the visit a tad stressful.

Perhaps I should get an ‘Occupied’ sign made and stick it on the outside of the door.

I have never realised that Baubles.

The outside locks on the ones I have used recently turn red on the outside. I noticed this, after recently waiting outside two disabled toilets for twenty minutes, it turned out to be mums changing/ feeding their babies.

I thought I was going to have an embarrassing accident!

JenniferEccles Mon 14-Oct-24 16:38:58

After a hip replacement a few years ago I was sent to an exercise class with other hip and knee folk.

I remember the physiotherapist stressing the importance of muscle strengthening exercises, stating how important strong muscles are in maintaining independence in later life.

I remember she actually used getting on and off loos as a very good example, saying that once the ability to do that unaided has gone independence is also lost.

It made quite an impression on me, and even now I make a point of getting up from the loo without holding on to anything.

Marydoll Mon 14-Oct-24 17:39:23

It is the getting down that is my problem!!

oodles Tue 15-Oct-24 11:35:29

RADAR keys are not just for obvious disabilities, if anyone has trouble.with the loos in a place then don't feel.bad about using one. There are various bowel or urinary issues for.example, or temporary issues
I've used a radar key when for whatever reason there are no other loos available, I do not.want.to continue suffer with cystitis, or wet myself or heaven forbid, need to hide behind the loo.
As for high seats and other people using the loo, I have a squatty potty/stquateasy step that makes things easier, also easy for avoiding constipation if you don't have hip issues

Retroladywriting Tue 15-Oct-24 11:42:36

Deedaa

My friend and I went up to London to see the Biba exhibition. When we got back to Waterloo we had quite a long wait for our train so I decided to find a loo. The station Ladies was closed for refurbishment and, when we asked a nice Indian security lady where we should go, she pointed to a line of Glastonbury style temporary loos on the other side of the road. When she saw our faces she said "I do have a key for the disabled toilet if you would like to use that" Bliss! High seat, lots of handles to grab hold of, and really hot water to wash in.

There's also room for handbag, shopping etc ... Some loos are so small you can hardly tuck your vest in your knickers!

NannyMags Tue 15-Oct-24 11:58:03

@nanna8 where do you call home, if I may ask?

Babs03 Tue 15-Oct-24 12:09:35

My OH has a radar key because he suffers from ulcerative colitis and when he has a flare up he needs the loo pronto xx

deedeedum Tue 15-Oct-24 12:10:52

I am pleased this issue has been
raised. Ladies loo seats in public places are far too low, countless times I have really struggled. Obviously it is because this issue is decided by MEN who don't have the same needs. It should be a health and safety issue that lavatories in the "ladies" should be of a certain height. I wonder how many ladies have had to be rescued from these tortuous facilities.

Calendargirl Tue 15-Oct-24 12:42:30

NannyMags

@nanna8 where do you call home, if I may ask?

I think she is in Australia.

Babs03 Tue 15-Oct-24 13:00:54

choughdancer

I'm a hoverer too, and much prefer them to be on the low side, as I'm only 5ft. I definitely can't hover over a higher disability one.

If I absolutely HAVE to sit on a public loo, I clean the seat with loo paper squirted with soap, then with water, then dry; I just can't bear the thought of sitting on them uncleaned. I did the same for my children too once they got too heavy to be held above them.

40 odd years ago I lived for a while in the Middle East, and hated the hole in the floor ones. I had to spend time in hospital a couple of times, and dreaded having to have to use them; they always seemed to be swimming with water, and it was hard to keep my dressing gown out of it. Most of the other ladies were wearing abayas; not sure how they managed!

I'm sure I've exaggerated it in my mind, but I still often dream about needing a loo, and searching through endless areas of filthy holes in the floor trying to find somewhere acceptable. Often these dreams end in me sitting on the loo after I've found it, only to see that the walls all around me are made of glass!

Apologies if I've put anyone off their tea!

We have spent time in the mid east and also found the holes in the floor difficult. They use a hose by the side of the hole to wash themselves so water goes all over, it might make the person cleaner but not the sluiced off stuff on the floor.
Never could get on with it.

JennyCee Tue 15-Oct-24 14:24:00

Some years ago ex-hubby and I had new loo put in by a friend who had a plumbing business, and he put in a loo shaped 1-2 inch high wooden stand for the loo. It was just the job and surely relatively easy to do?

Knittypamela Tue 15-Oct-24 16:29:35

The loos in Antrim Mall are so low I thought I'd accidentally used a child sized toilet.

Mt61 Tue 15-Oct-24 16:46:24

2oaktrees

Why dont you all just stand over loo?

My bladder nurse said never to stand or crouch over a loo, you have to sit properly on the seat- I just bought liners to go around the loo seat online

Mt61 Tue 15-Oct-24 16:59:35

My friend nipped into a disabled loo, this male security guard opened the door whilst she was sat on the loo, knickers around her ankles, he asked why she was using a disabled toilet when she was clearly not disabled, she replied “ do you think we could finish this conversation outside when I am finished 🤣

Cambsnan Tue 15-Oct-24 18:00:32

Buy a radar key on eBay!