Are you too scared to post what you really think?

Shinamae

Obviously there are people on here with a better education and and a more superior intellect to my own which is fair enough BUT when they use it to castigate and belittle other posters, I think it is disgusting and says more about them than the poster they are critiquing….🤨

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fancythat I think you would need to be very naive not to know that if you post on a forum, any forum, the response you get may nt be what you want/expect.

However I think sometimes with these desperate ones, people open threads in their night of despair anywhere and on anything and then never come back to any of them to see if they get a reply or if they look, if the reply/s are not the one they want, 'Yes, you are wonderful and are fully justified cutting your son and daughter out of your life because you didn't see your first grandchild before they were 10 minutes old' or whatever. They just do not bother to come back.

Thanks Terribull and maddyone

maddyone

Callistemon I noticed your absence and really missed you. So glad you’re back.
How dare anyone order you off the site. They have the problem, not you

I second that maddyone, Callistemon imo, you are a great poster, balanced views and a good sense of humour.

I'm shocked that anyone would take it upon themselves to order another poster off the site. As in life, we're not always going to agree with each other all of the time.

There are at least 2 threads recently, started by posters who do post from time to time, who have not returned to their thread.
One of them has said she has mental health issues.

I do wonder if some posters are frightened off by the posts they receive, more often than we realise.

Obviously there are people on here with a better education and and a more superior intellect to my own which is fair enough BUT when they use it to castigate and belittle other posters, I think it is disgusting and says more about them than the poster they are critiquing….🤨

There have been posters in the past who seem to have wanted to start a fight in an empty room, with wilful misinterpretation of opinions, and aggressive comments. Attempting to explain caused yet more outrage. Some of these posters have not been on GN for a while; perhaps they are building themselves up for further ravings. I have felt quite sorry for some posters on the receiving end, as I have been once or twice. We should be able to say what we think - the increasing trend for shutting down others opinions, either verbal or written, is alarming. I understand why the OP feel as she does.

And as someone else said, the interview was on Sky.

Perhaps he was being ironic?

I see. Not Spaghetti. No longer confused

Thanks Notspaghetti that was helpful. As I say I am not in the slightest bit interested in the wealth if thr PM but that does put it into a different context than the soundbites.

It was in response to him being the wrong age to want Sky etc etc. tickingbird
Further upthread probably by now!

Ok. I thought you were quoting Galaxy. Not sure what your point was about his age.

tickingbird

NotSpaghetti

I’m a little confused. Are you saying Sunak didn’t say anything about not having Sky Tv?

I know he did because I saw the clip and he did say that.

I quoted it a few posts up, tickingbird

He didn’t describe it as a hardship, as some like to pretend. He said it was one of the things he didn’t have as a kid because his parents spent money on his school fees.

I express my opinion as a comment but I am not interested in conducting a discussion. There are some posters who cannot let a topic go and produce a thread of interminable length; not interested.

NotSpaghetti

I’m a little confused. Are you saying Sunak didn’t say anything about not having Sky Tv?

I know he did because I saw the clip and he did say that.

Having spent a life time working in business research, and assessing the reliability of my sources of information, it comes as second nature and I do sometimes forget that other people will not be able to do this with the same facility I do.

Among the things I know is that sources often branded as unreliable, such as newspapers and Wikipedia, are to be trusted and accepted. It just depends the subject about what the article is about. Some Wikipedia articles are political or controversial and subject to interference.

But for example. I visited a small National Trust property in Somerset this week, Lytes Cary, I would be very confident quoting the Wikipedia entry on the history of the building because it has probably been written by the National Trust and no one is likely to have wanted to change it or distort it for any reason.

But there is also a responsibility on the reader, when they follow a link to make their own judgement of it. If someone makes a very persuasive argument for the earth being flat and does a link to the Flat Earth Society, It is to be expected that the reader would not consider that a neutral link. On the other hand The Wikipedia article is excellent and reliable and approaches the subject dispassionately and fairly.

Galaxy - it was an interview. I understood that bit was about parents making sacrifices and his own family.

Asked what sort of things had to be sacrificed, he said: "Lots of things."

Pressed for an example, he said: "All sorts of things like lots of people. There'll be all sorts of things that I would've wanted as a kid that I couldn't have. Famously, Sky TV, so that was something that we never had growing up actually." BBC.

Sunak was 8 when Sky was launched (February 5, 1989) He was born 12 May 1980 so would have been 9 that year - not 10 or 12 as I've seen reported. (Not that it matters).

Millie22

This is all very intriguing.

I'm just wondering who all these people are that upset everybody 🤔

It'll be Some People, Millie. They are responsible for all the ills on here

(Incidentally, if anyone would like to tell me about bees, my inbox is always open)

Joseann

Of course, NotSpagetti, the correct facts are important. I think I meant more posters who check something from their favourite media source and take it as gospel, and post it as "fact". Or the posters who seem to know about all aspects of law, medicine, education, care homes, forces, etc. without ever having worked in the professions.
I'm careful to use expressions like, " my understanding is that .. ", or "I believe that .." if I contribute, not having thoroughly researched the facts on an area I know little about.

Yes, that's where I am coming from, too. I wasn't referring to you, NotSpaghetti, or anyone in particular that I could name - more the sort of posts that complain about TV drama not being factual, or people who make sweeping statements about things that are wildly out of date or just don't apply. I notice it more when people talk about universities, as that's where I've worked for so long - I'm sure others feel the same about areas close to their own hearts.

The problem with links is that the link is often the writer’s opinion. X/twitter links for example, are usually someone else’s opinion and the poster links to that because it backs up their opinion. This is not always the case with links of course, often the link takes us to a newspaper. This could be factual, or might not be, it depends on the subject and the journalist who wrote it. Links to government sites are helpful though.

O/P - yes, sometimes.

On fact checking/references - when one or two line controversial "Facts" thrown out - I think its reasonable to post a source so we can see the "fact" in context and reply - not essay standards but modest responsibility - more or less what Monica said upthread.

I did once get deleted for having an opinion about a poster who has gone. It was grandad and I said he was misogynist

Millie22

This is all very intriguing.

I'm just wondering who all these people are that upset everybody 🤔

I don't think we're allowed to say, especially if they've left because they can't speak for themselves.

I have just given my opinion on another thread, re Bargain Hunt and dogs, which some will doubtless disagree with, but I don’t care. I am allowed my opinion. It is not rude or offensive or illegal, so no, I am not scared.