Missing lad in Tenerife, Jay Slater

Dogmum2

Let me start by saying i do hope he is found, and soon.

I have resisted disappearing down the rabbit hole of theories, however one thing bugs me. It may be a translation thing, but given the searchers knew the last place his phone 'pinged' and they used search dogs i do furrow my brow at the statement included the phrase 'no trace was found' indicating that the dogs didn't pick up his scent. Given they knew his last location and a witness seeing the direction he was going, this, at the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, seems odd/off to me, given the dry conditions.

I wonder if we will ever know the truth, for Jay and his family i do hope so.

The reports I've read say they were cadaver dogs and weren't given scent. 'No trace was found' = no dead person. Doesn't tell us anything.

maddyone

Yes, I hadn’t thought of that. And why didn’t the two men who took him by car to the Airbnb take him back to his hotel, or to wherever they picked him up from?

One of the men from the Airbnb said they gave him a blanket - presumably so he could sleep. I think you can see it dangling around him in the selfie he took when he was smoking a cigarette outside the rental.

I'm guessing the men went to sleep and gave little or no thought to how he would get back, or when.

The question is - why did he go back with them?

I could understand if they had a pad / rental just a few minutes walk from the club why he'd be inclined to accept an invite - maybe full of beans and not wanting the rave / night to finish, but to go virtually from one end of the island to the other end, an hour is a long drive...

In my youth I used to attend all-night jazz clubs in London and friends would invite me and my other friends back to their 'pad' for drinks (the jazz club didn't sell alcohol) and to listen to more jazz - we didn't want the night to end, so I can understand him going off with friends from that angle.

But the men were much older than him, and resided so far away, it just seems such an odd set-up.

But without knowing the facts, it's all speculation.

Speculation I know but I bet drugs are at the bottom of the trip in the car

Body found, but questions still remain: What was he doing there? Why did he go down a hiking trail (one leading away from his destination), instead of waiting for a bus or going back to the AirBnb? Why did he leave the AirBnb anyway, soon after getting a lift there? And why did he choose to go there in the first place?

Johnny Vegas says he gave Jay a favour by letting him sleep there as his friends have abandoned him: No they haven't, their place was much closer and they answered his calls while he was in the car and on the hiking trail. So we can assume they would have also answered him was he knocking on their door early Monday morning.

Did Jay lose his balance and fall on that trail? Was he alone or did someone follow him? Will we ever know?

Johnny Vegas?

Callistemon213

Johnny Vegas?

The name of one of the two airbnb men. I read that the Police had been ‘ discreetly’ searching, to prevent the area being invaded by sightseers.
So, with the Princess of Wales having been seen alive and well at Wimbledon, the TikTok detectives will have to go back to Madeleine McCann.

Callistemon, Johnny Vegus is a name used by one of the two men
I’ve wondered whether after a few days of ‘parting’ and no sleep, jay was in any state to be making decisions. He’s young but few 19 year olds would decide to walk 11 miles in mountainous wild hot conditions rather than sleep under shade till the next bus or a friend arrived to pick him up

I bet the real Johnny Vegas is horrified about this
It is awful though. I was reminded of this thread when they said he was found near to where his mobile last had signal and someone mentioning on here that maybe they hadn't looked hard enough <a man look> awful for his family

Thank you, I must have missed that.

We mustn't speculate but even sensible older adults make strange decisions or become disorientated sometimes.

Jay's decisions ending in him losing his life.

I don’t believe it’s fair to accuse the authorities of not looking hard enough. The terrain is dangerous. There was a delay in finding Dr Mosley despite the circumstances appearing more straightforward than those in Tenerife

Micheal Moseley got lost didn't he, in hot sun?

Iam64

I don’t believe it’s fair to accuse the authorities of not looking hard enough. The terrain is dangerous. There was a delay in finding Dr Mosley despite the circumstances appearing more straightforward than those in Tenerife

yes you are right

I suppose we need to remind our young people to stick together on nights out. I remember one night out my friend left with a group of men in a car and I had to get taxi home alone and I never forgave her. Firstly I was worried about her and secondly I was left to travel home alone putting me at risk too as there was all sorts of stuff about local taxi drivers at the time.

Mosley died from natural causes according to news reports. He set off at mid day in heat, to walk two km to his holiday accommodation on Symi. His body was found four days later in an area previously searched
We know searches in the UK have sometimes failed despite best efforts

Iam64

I don’t believe it’s fair to accuse the authorities of not looking hard enough. The terrain is dangerous. There was a delay in finding Dr Mosley despite the circumstances appearing more straightforward than those in Tenerife

No, it's not fair at all

When I think of some of the things friends and I did at that age I can't t believe we were so stupid.

However, we never took drugs.

At least his family and friends now have an end to their story. It is the not knowing that is so dreadful.

They can now take him home and give him a funeral.

Very sad news for his family of course, but not unexpected once certain facts emerged about this lad.

JenniferEccles

Very sad news for his family of course, but not unexpected once certain facts emerged about this lad.

I’m not sure that all the stuff which has appeared online can be classed as ‘facts’.
However, a young man has died, which is sad.

I’m sure you’re right Daddima but trustworthy reports from tv news and newspapers could be relied on to be truthful, and they built up a certain picture of this lad.

Nevertheless, a very sad end to a life.

People do not grieve any the less the loss of a child, nor is he more deserving of death because he had a record as a petty criminal.

He was only 19, he had an apprenticship and was being trained as a bricklayer. Many lads have a turbulent few years between 15 and 25 but grow up and mature in to good citizens, good partners and good parents. He clearly came from a warm and loving family.

JenniferEccles

I’m sure you’re right Daddima but trustworthy reports from tv news and newspapers could be relied on to be truthful, and they built up a certain picture of this lad.

Nevertheless, a very sad end to a life.

Surely that’s a contradiction in terms 🤷‍♀️

M0nica

People do not grieve any the less the loss of a child, nor is he more deserving of death because he had a record as a petty criminal.

He was only 19, he had an apprenticship and was being trained as a bricklayer. Many lads have a turbulent few years between 15 and 25 but grow up and mature in to good citizens, good partners and good parents. He clearly came from a warm and loving family.

Good post MOnica.

I think the body still has to be formally identified, but it is pretty certain it's young Jay Slater,

At the very least his parents will not now have to face a future of not knowing what happened to their son. Small consolation though it is.

Assuming it is Jay Slater, I wonder why he would have taken the route he took. I still wonder about the two men who have been rather too smartly dismissed in my opinion. Why did he go with them? Why did he leave? And why didn’t they offer him a lift? Was he trying to escape from them? I feel they know more than they’ve said, at the very least why he left so early and why they didn’t give him a lift. And why he went with them in the first place.

Yes, I think questions remain unanswered.

If I was Jsy Slater's parent I wouldn't give up until I had answers.

Nineteen year olds are impulsive though, so it could also just be that he thought he could walk it back to his apartment, tripped off the road as he was doing so and fell into a ravine which was not visible. That would tie in with the account given by his friend of her phone call with him.
I’m finding the whole trial by social media experience wrong in so many ways, because it destroys peoples reputations even when the reason they meet their death could be unrelated to the conspiracy theories, I think the Nicola Bulley death left a really sour taste about how much harm it can do.