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kircubbin2000 Wed 10-Jul-24 10:00:09

I see a woman called Tilly has been fired for threatening to tear up books by an author she doesn't like.
Some people think the shop has over reacted and the poor woman is in tears in her video.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 10-Jul-24 10:02:31

If she is threatening to destroy her employer’s property she should be fired.

Witzend Wed 10-Jul-24 10:03:28

What, she works for Waterstones, has threatened to tear up books they stock, and is ‘in tears’ about being fired?
She sounds unhinged!

LovesBach Wed 10-Jul-24 10:06:40

Over reacted? Presumably other staff and the manager must stand around and smile indulgently as she destroys the stock she doesn't approve of. Maybe invite customers in to tear up books they don't like. This is where I begin to think the world has gone mad - unless this woman has made a light hearted joke which has been taken seriously.

Parsley3 Wed 10-Jul-24 10:13:05

She didn't threaten to actually tear up books from the stock but made a comment on social media about what she would like to do to an author's work. It's an issue about freedom of speech. I will attempt a link.

Parsley3 Wed 10-Jul-24 10:16:31

metro.co.uk/2024/07/09/bookseller-sacked-waterstones-row-author-trans-rights-21195631/

Here is the story.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 10-Jul-24 10:24:50

She has only herself to blame.

MissInterpreted Wed 10-Jul-24 10:29:02

Indeed she does. Freedom of speech is all well and good - and I will defend anyone's right to it - but you have to remember that it does come with responsibilities and consequences, and if you breach your employer's rules regarding social media, then you need to face up to the consequences of that. For someone who works in a bookshop to talk about destroying any book - their own or their employer's - is just plain wrong, in my opinion.

DamaskRose Wed 10-Jul-24 10:31:54

As far as I understand it she was going to tear up her own property?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 10-Jul-24 10:32:42

Well said MissA.

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Jul-24 10:35:17

Thanks for the link Parsley she obviously violated a social media policy but really???
Surely this is a warning matter - not a firing.

MissInterpreted Wed 10-Jul-24 10:42:54

NotSpaghetti

Thanks for the link Parsley she obviously violated a social media policy but really???
Surely this is a warning matter - not a firing.

We don't know exactly what her contract stipulated though.

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Jul-24 10:44:01

She says she did like her work, kircubbin2000 - and has written about her previously on her blog.

I wonder why Waterstones haven't sacked her for her blog before???

She doesn't like what she says about gender identity (and other things).

Here's another (interesting) article.
knowingius.substack.com/p/waterstones-fires-tilly

Spuddy Wed 10-Jul-24 13:32:06

She willingly works in a bookshop where she sells books by countless authors then destroys books by authors she disagrees with then goes on social media crying like a silly little 4 year old bully brat in the playground, stomping her little feet and chucking a massive tantrum.

Waterstones were 100% right in chucking her in the bin!

M0nica Wed 10-Jul-24 13:38:18

With rights come responsibilities. To act in a way that suggests you think what your employer sells is rubbish is just that.

Customers in Waterstones may well ask her opinion on books. What would she say if someone wanted to buy a book by this author.

BigMamma Wed 10-Jul-24 13:57:55

She should be fired, if she wants to tear them up then she should buy them first.

This is disgusting,anyone who destroys property that does not belong to them should be arrested.

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Jul-24 15:25:41

BigMamma
I expect the Waterstones worker would agree.

She didn't want to destroy Waterstone's books.
I think maybe you have been misled somewhere - even the author thinks the person was referring to her own copies.

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Jul-24 15:27:43

M0nica the worker has written very positive things about the books on the same blog. Her comments were about what the author had been saying... not the books which she had previously bought for herself.

eazybee Wed 10-Jul-24 19:22:16

She was employed to sell books, any books for sale in Waterstones. She has built up a following on social media so her comments about destroying books of which she does not approve would very likely influence possible buyers against making a purchase.
She is a sales assistant, not a literary critic.
Silly woman.

Urmstongran Wed 10-Jul-24 19:35:49

DamaskRose

As far as I understand it she was going to tear up her own property?

Indeed, it was this.
She had a book at home written by said author and the ‘influencer’ said she’d chuck her copy in the bin - saves me reading it.

biglouis Wed 10-Jul-24 19:36:53

People can be very naive about their (mis)use of social media. If she wanted to critique her employer and their policies she should have opened an anonymous account to do so.

I can recall a staff member being disciplined back in the 1970s for going to a newspaper with a critique of the local authority. His remarks were to some extent valid but he was lucky to get off with a written warning.

Callistemon213 Wed 10-Jul-24 19:39:07

Urmstongran

DamaskRose

As far as I understand it she was going to tear up her own property?

Indeed, it was this.
She had a book at home written by said author and the ‘influencer’ said she’d chuck her copy in the bin - saves me reading it.

Why would she buy a book she dislikes and doesn't approve of?

Very odd.

Bumface Wed 10-Jul-24 20:17:30

Christina Dalcher is a very poor writer but I still think Tilly Fitzgerald should not have expressed herself in that way.

Whenever I hear of people being sacked for something quite minor, I always wonder if there is more to the story. Perhaps she was a PITA and put customers off buying any books she didn't approve of.

I hate the idea of destroying books, it reminds me of the Nazis and Fahrenheit 451(one of CD's favourite books). I believe people destroyed Harry Potter books in protest about something JKR said.

Let's face it bookshop staff have to sell all kinds of rubbish by people like Katie Price, Jeremy Clarkson and Jim Davidson.

Patsy70 Wed 10-Jul-24 21:16:38

I was in Waterstones recently, buying books for my great nephew’s Christening gift. It was such a very pleasant environment, where I used to bring my young granddaughters. They are still avid readers, which I find comforting. I think the employee deserved to be fired. There is a limit to how tolerant one should be, surely?

NotSpaghetti Wed 10-Jul-24 21:19:23

Callistemon she said the books are very good. She wrote positive pieces about them.
It was just the tweets and comments of the author she didn't like.