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My heart went out to Camilla

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RosiesMaw2 Sat 07-Sept-24 11:23:06

We’ve all suffered, haven’t we, the impromptu photo catching us at our worst ? I happily delete them meaning that there are fewer pics of me than of anybody else in the family!
However, heads should roll over this - the Queen’s rather orange makeup doesn’t seem to reach the sides of her face, or down her neck, her eyebrows are seriously overdone and the wrinkles which generally accompany our late 70’s alas all to clear in this close up.
The late Queen had wonderful skin throughout her life, but didn’t smoke and drank very little alcohol. Perhaps she also had a better make up

Kate1949 Sun 08-Sept-24 14:11:06

I don't see her as a saint. I see her as hurt.

MissAdventure Sun 08-Sept-24 14:12:32

Me too.

Anniebach Sun 08-Sept-24 14:20:08

Yet Camilla wasn’t hurt by her husband many affairs ?

Kate1949 Sun 08-Sept-24 14:28:47

Then she should know better. Her husband's affairs weren't Diana's fault. I don't believe that anyone in the Royal Family cared about Diana.

Anniebach Sun 08-Sept-24 14:38:54

Were Mrs Mannakke, Mrs Waterhouse Mrs.Hoare, Mrs.Carling
at fault ?

MissAdventure Sun 08-Sept-24 14:39:48

I agree, Kate.
Again, by the Morton book, Charles was quite smitten with Diana for a while, but that wore off when he found her behaviour so difficult to understand.

That may well be a total fabrication, though.

MissAdventure Sun 08-Sept-24 14:41:51

I think all of those people were victims in the fallout of a disastrous marriage, just as surely as Diana (and probably Charles)

Anniebach Sun 08-Sept-24 14:43:57

Much in Morton’s book was probably total fabrication,
Diana was involved with the writing,

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 14:44:56

Kate1949

Then she should know better. Her husband's affairs weren't Diana's fault. I don't believe that anyone in the Royal Family cared about Diana.

Prince Philip, for one, cared about Diana and wrote her kind and supportive letters when she and Charles were getting divorced.

There are always two sides to a story.

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 14:45:46

Anniebach

Much in Morton’s book was probably total fabrication,
Diana was involved with the writing,

Six of one and half a dozen of the other.

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 14:47:03

MissAdventure

I agree, Kate.
Again, by the Morton book, Charles was quite smitten with Diana for a while, but that wore off when he found her behaviour so difficult to understand.

That may well be a total fabrication, though.

It's obvious from early photos of them together but he must have found her immature and very needy behaviour bewildering.

MissAdventure Sun 08-Sept-24 14:48:02

None of us know even one side of the story, though.
It I'd all what we've gleaned ourselves, coloured by our own bias, as it was then, as well as now, all these years later.

MissAdventure Sun 08-Sept-24 14:52:05

That's exactly it, Allira.

The royals weren't known for wearing their hearts on their sleeves, so to find Diana in their inner circle was trying, to say the least.

Plus, there was the age difference...

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 15:03:24

Both victims of a rather archaic system.

MissAdventure Sun 08-Sept-24 15:08:30

There weren't any winners to come out of it, except that Charles and Camilla are now together, but then I think they would have always been, one way or another.

Anniebach Sun 08-Sept-24 15:12:14

Diana grew up within the royals inner circle. So strange , her sister Jane lived in Balmoral estate during the summer yet didn’t know of the great affair, sister Sarah dated Charles yet didn’t know of the great affair, Lady Fermoy grandmother didn’t know of the Great affair

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 15:12:55

All three, in fact, as Charles wanted to marry Camilla from the beginning.

MissAdventure Sun 08-Sept-24 15:15:30

Apparently the royals all knew of the affair, Annie, in that old fashioned traditional way that it was just accepted.

They knew, and approved.
Again, just heresay, really.

Kate1949 Sun 08-Sept-24 15:26:41

How does anyone know these people were telling the truth?

Anniebach Sun 08-Sept-24 15:36:02

I do not believe Charles wanted to marry when age 23. I have no belief in the press, I truly believe a cousin of Camilla and friend of mine, who told me in 1973 , whilst showing me photographs of a cousins wedding attended by Queen Mother, Princess Margaret and Princess Anne, ‘she adores him’ , this was a reply to my ‘she is radiant’ , wedding of Camilla and Andrew PB

LucyAnna2 Sun 08-Sept-24 16:05:43

People who look ‘radiant’ at weddings can sometimes be divorced a few years later. No-one really knows.

Anniebach Sun 08-Sept-24 16:10:19

A fortune teller or a speaker to spirits would, surely?

LucyAnna2 Sun 08-Sept-24 16:14:28

Well, if one believes in such…..

MissAdventure Sun 08-Sept-24 16:16:47

Ah, we're back in Diana territory now.

Anniebach Sun 08-Sept-24 16:19:44

No, I spoke of Camilla’s first wedding