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BigBopper Sat 14-Sept-24 13:31:38

If every person of viting age in the UK did not vote for Labour, then I am sure Starmer would have to resign.

sharon103 Sat 14-Sept-24 13:50:56

We can but hope. I certainly won't be.

MaizieD Sat 14-Sept-24 13:53:09

Errr... what is the vote for?

sharon103 Sat 14-Sept-24 13:58:08

Council elections I think,

Indigo8 Sat 14-Sept-24 13:58:57

Sorry, are we talking local council elections or a vacant seat for your local MP?

Are you just using this thread just to air your anti Labour views?

I take it you want the Cons back.confused

MaizieD Sat 14-Sept-24 14:08:49

it could be a local council by-election. They seem to go on at any time during the year. As would a by -election for a vacant seat in Parliament. National local council elections are usually in May.

I'm don't like to frustrate the OP's hopes, but whatever it is, Starmer won't be going anywhere.

NannyJan53 Sat 14-Sept-24 14:26:28

I am certainly not giving up on Labour just yet. They have only been in power a few weeks!

People seem to have very short memories regarding the mess the Tories left behind. Think we need to give Labour the courtesy of time.

BigBopper Sat 14-Sept-24 15:53:13

The Postal Poll card just says the election of councillors. I also had a paper pushed through with a massive red, Vote Labour on the front of it.

I suppose it is to vote for the councillor I want to run the ward I am in.

@ NannyJan53.........Regarding giving Labour the courtesy of time to start to put things right then I don't suppose we have a choice in the matter for the next five years.

I am not going to worry about something that I have no control over.

BigBopper Sat 14-Sept-24 15:58:18

Indigo8

Sorry, are we talking local council elections or a vacant seat for your local MP?

Are you just using this thread just to air your anti Labour views?

I take it you want the Cons back.confused

I do not worry about anything I cannot change. Labour won the general election so I will live with that, I just wish Starmer wasn't targeting the pensioners rather than the immigrants who get everything for free once they set foot on our soil.

Anyway time will tell, I just hope I live long enough to see what happens.

Indigo8 Sat 14-Sept-24 16:55:20

If Keir Starmer and Joe Biden decide to send long range missiles deep into Russia, none of us will live long enough to see what happens.

Whingey Sun 15-Sept-24 06:48:52

Went to council about pension and bus pass when I was 60.told it had gone up to 62.2 years later told 64.Finally got them at 66!big bopper is right stop throwing money at immigrants!

BlueBelle Sun 15-Sept-24 07:43:51

I prefer a government with an adult thinking person leading it than a buffoon or a far right winger

Freya5 Sun 15-Sept-24 08:46:28

BigBopper

If every person of viting age in the UK did not vote for Labour, then I am sure Starmer would have to resign.

Only a very small percentage 33.7 %, according to Statista, of the population voted for this awful shower. I wonder if the Cons had won again with such small numbers but huge amount of seats,Labour would have been calling for a change from FPP ??

Freya5 Sun 15-Sept-24 08:47:42

Yes BigBopper,I think many Labour councillors will lose their seats next May.

Casdon Sun 15-Sept-24 08:58:32

Freya5

BigBopper

If every person of viting age in the UK did not vote for Labour, then I am sure Starmer would have to resign.

Only a very small percentage 33.7 %, according to Statista, of the population voted for this awful shower. I wonder if the Cons had won again with such small numbers but huge amount of seats,Labour would have been calling for a change from FPP ??

A much smaller percentage voted Tory though, 22.7%, a massive reduction since 2019, so that wasn’t ever going to happen. If Labour do lose seats at the council elections, it’s more likely to be to the Lib Dem’s and the Greens as things stand at the moment. I don’t think that would be a bad thing, more diversity of local councillors is healthy in terms of decision making processes.

Witzend Sun 15-Sept-24 09:01:01

None here yet - maybe we don’t have council elections any time soon.

What did (very wryly) amuse me very recently, was a leaflet from our LD MP, basically saying that the gratifying increase in numbers of LD MPs, was down to their hard work.

This constituency has always been a toss-up between Con/LD, Labour come nowhere - though for the last two general elections votes have been a lot less of a toss-up, certainly nothing like the recount needed not so long ago.

I suspect that much of the LDs’ recent success had rather less to do with their hard work, though I’m sure they did plenty of that, but was more down to people who couldn’t bring themselves to vote Tory, even if they had in the past - but didn’t want to vote Labour either - or (like here) knew it’d be a wasted vote if they did.

Mollygo Sun 15-Sept-24 09:10:40

We have been inundated with leaflets from councillors in our local election from all parties.

All so far, 1. live locally so are keen to do things for our area
2. can be seen walking their dog
3. will do x, y and z if we vote them in, and
4. are willing to answer any queries we might have, just use the email address below.

Since the only candidate who has bothered to answer my email questions is the LibDem candidate, does that mean he’s the only truthful one?

Freya5 Sun 15-Sept-24 09:58:56

NannyJan53

I am certainly not giving up on Labour just yet. They have only been in power a few weeks!

People seem to have very short memories regarding the mess the Tories left behind. Think we need to give Labour the courtesy of time.

At least they didn't put some pensioners into poverty and left to freeze in the winter.

Freya5 Sun 15-Sept-24 10:01:38

Indigo8

If Keir Starmer and Joe Biden decide to send long range missiles deep into Russia, none of us will live long enough to see what happens.

Yes because crafty dopey Joe will let the UK , use our long range missiles, suffer the consequences of this to keep Americans safe,our dopey PM has already thrown down the gauntlet to Putin.

Wyllow3 Sun 15-Sept-24 10:12:45

No decision has been reached yet but it's worth noting it's a cross party issue.

"This morning Conservative leadership hopeful James Cleverly is asked whether the UK should allow Kyiv to fire long-range missiles into Russia.

He says Ukraine should be able to use them to neutralise launch sites to protect itself, and that it's disappointing that agreement wasn't reached with the US last week"

Cleverly says it's "untenable for for Ukraine to defend itself" without their use.

So why didn't the Conservative government allow Ukraine to use them, Laura asks? Cleverly says this was something he pushed for.

at 9.49 in an interview this morning with Kuenssberg

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce8d89qdnzgt

Greyisnotmycolour Sun 15-Sept-24 10:19:16

The last Tory government took six years pension from and thousands of other women. The WFA is less than £1 a day. They took £30K+ each and everyone of us. Don't ever think the Tories will treat you better.

Allira Sun 15-Sept-24 10:21:31

Mollygo

We have been inundated with leaflets from councillors in our local election from all parties.

All so far, 1. live locally so are keen to do things for our area
2. can be seen walking their dog
3. will do x, y and z if we vote them in, and
4. are willing to answer any queries we might have, just use the email address below.

Since the only candidate who has bothered to answer my email questions is the LibDem candidate, does that mean he’s the only truthful one?

In local elections I would vote for the person, not the party.

We had a Lib Dem County Councillor here for a while, he was absolutely useless and, frankly, did not seem very aware of local issues nor was he interested.

Now we have a Conservative Councillor after a slight boundary change and he is proactive, interested and keeps us up to date with local affairs. He always seems willing to help if anyone has a problem too.
I'd vote for him if he stands again.

Allira Sun 15-Sept-24 10:33:07

Greyisnotmycolour

The last Tory government took six years pension from and thousands of other women. The WFA is less than £1 a day. They took £30K+ each and everyone of us. Don't ever think the Tories will treat you better.

The Pensions Act, equalising State Pension age, was introduced by John Major's Government, as it was seen to be unfair to men. Tony Blair's Government increased the age up to 68 in stages.

During the Blair and Brown years, the then Government decided that a state pension age fixed at 65 was no longer affordable or sustainable. The Pensions Act 2007 introduced an increase in state pension age to ages 66, 67 and 68.

I do think it would have been fairer (but more costly) to equalise SP age at 63.
I agree the implementation of all this was unfair on those women in that small group.

However, I still would treat a local election differently and vote for the person.

I doubt that many of us will be voting again just yet anyway.

Galaxy Sun 15-Sept-24 10:44:30

I have many concerns around some of the social/cultural issues in America,however I find it interesting that in the face of international conflict over the last year, my first reaction has been thank God America is there. Biden is right to say no to Starmer re Ukraine.

Wyllow3 Sun 15-Sept-24 11:06:50

As I posted upthread its not a party political issue in the UK as Cleverly said this morning

""This morning Conservative leadership hopeful James Cleverly is asked whether the UK should allow Kyiv to fire long-range missiles into Russia.

He says Ukraine should be able to use them to neutralise launch sites to protect itself, and that it's disappointing that agreement wasn't reached with the US last week"

Cleverly says it's "untenable for for Ukraine to defend itself" without their use.

However as things stand I agree its a dangerous move to make

(What Biden really thinks will be affected by perceptions in the current US presidential race)