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“Lovely”

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RosiesMaw2 Sat 05-Oct-24 18:14:03

Why is everybody referred to as “lovely” ?
You know the sort of thing, I suspect I am guilty of it too.
“My lovely cleaner, my lovely hairdresser, my lovely gardener etc?”
This from a post by our local WI FB group (place names redacted))
What a fabulous day out with our lovely WI ladies to The Kings Gallery and the Royal Mews - plus we were joined from a couple of lovely ladies from xxxxxxxxxx WI too
A superb day out with lots of lovely chats over tea and coffee getting to know one another a little better 😍 and two fabulous exhibitions that we all really enjoyed 🎉
Huge thanks to lovely xxxxx from xxxxxx Coaches for getting us there safely and huge thanks to all the lovely ladies on the trip

AIBU to find this all a bit saccharine and 🤮🤮🤮🤮

nanna8 Sat 05-Oct-24 23:22:55

Here it is often sarcastic as in ‘ well that’s just lovely, isn’t it ?’ meaning exactly the opposite. I’d rather lovely than nasty or horrid.

Lilypops Sat 05-Oct-24 23:06:41

Marydoll. I have seen a copy of a consultants letter to my GP. , He said. “. I examined this very pleasant lady today””. I wonder if he says that about every female patient ??

Dickens Sat 05-Oct-24 23:05:43

Aveline

Does simp not just mean simpleton? In which case it's definitely not a lovely descriptor.
I was once told I was refreshing. I don't think that was complimentary.

I was once told I was refreshing.

Do you remember the 1987 libel trial (The Archer Affair) where Mary Archer was described as fragrant?

In the judge's summing up he asked, "is she not fragrant?"

hmm

Lilypops Sat 05-Oct-24 23:03:26

Whenever I am asked “Do you know your postcard I say yes and I give it , Fantastic !! Why wouldn’t I know my postcode !!!

Dickens Sat 05-Oct-24 22:57:19

Ziplok

I’m sure it’s meant well. What alternative would you suggest?
I think sometimes, offence is looked for where none whatsoever is intended!

What alternative would you suggest?

Well, when medical staff call me "my lovely" I instinctively understand it's well meant, however it is a tad patronising.

I do notice though that doctors and consultants / surgeons don't do it - they tend to use the name you've indicated on your admission form that you'd like to be known by.

Because it's well-meant, I'd never complain, but it is infantilising.

As for looking for offence - this thread gives us the opportunity to say how we feel. But that doesn't mean anyone is permanently offended - or even looking to be so - just sharing their opinion.

Allira Sat 05-Oct-24 22:34:58

sodapop

A step up from the ubiquitous ' nice' though.

We were told not to use nice by our English teacher!!

MissAdventure Sat 05-Oct-24 22:21:30

Aveline

Does simp not just mean simpleton? In which case it's definitely not a lovely descriptor.
I was once told I was refreshing. I don't think that was complimentary.

It might do, but I'm sure it means so one who sulks up to others.

Aveline Sat 05-Oct-24 21:32:31

Does simp not just mean simpleton? In which case it's definitely not a lovely descriptor.
I was once told I was refreshing. I don't think that was complimentary.

Bridie22 Sat 05-Oct-24 21:19:25

Thank you 🙂

MissAdventure Sat 05-Oct-24 21:18:40

In the interests of equality, well done, Bridie smile

Bridie22 Sat 05-Oct-24 21:17:16

Finger slipped... thought it might be a rude word i could use, i learnt how to swear in sign language today, ive practised it all day 🤣😂

MissAdventure Sat 05-Oct-24 21:17:14

Banish the thought, Bridie. grin

Maybe a simp comes from simpering, come to think of it?

fancythat Sat 05-Oct-24 21:16:37

Anything that makes the world seem a "nice"! place is fine with me.

Bridie22 Sat 05-Oct-24 21:15:22

I get the jist Miss A... thought it might be a rude word !!!

MissAdventure Sat 05-Oct-24 21:13:07

Sorry, bit rambly today.
Extra words, missing words, you name it; I'm doing it.

MissAdventure Sat 05-Oct-24 21:11:23

It's an overly complimentary person, from what I can make out.
One of those kinds of people who buy the boss a present for the boss out of their own money, as well as putting into the staff collection.

Oreo Sat 05-Oct-24 21:09:30

Marvellous🤭

Bridie22 Sat 05-Oct-24 21:08:23

Miss A, what is a simp please 🤔?

MissAdventure Sat 05-Oct-24 21:03:01

A lot of the alternative words, I just wouldn't say about someone, unless I had a close personal relationship with them, or fancied them.

Oreo Sat 05-Oct-24 21:00:54

Wonderful? Great?
I hadn’t noticed the lovely ‘thing’ now I’ll start looking out for it.
I prob over use the word nice.Did you know that nice used to mean exact or so we were told at school.

MissAdventure Sat 05-Oct-24 20:57:43

grin

Ziplok Sat 05-Oct-24 20:57:00

Dottydots 👍🏼😁

Marydoll Sat 05-Oct-24 20:55:45

I laughed when my consulatant called a lovely lady in a letter to my GP.

If only he knew....😉

Ziplok Sat 05-Oct-24 20:55:30

I’m sure it’s meant well. What alternative would you suggest?
I think sometimes, offence is looked for where none whatsoever is intended!

Romola Sat 05-Oct-24 20:45:30

Suggestions for alternatives to "lovely ":
pleasant, charming, delightful, enjoyable , amusing, agreeable
More suggestions please!
By the way, I find that bus drivers, shop assistants and café staff are calling me "my lovely". Has anyone else experienced that? I rather like it!