Plastic Surgery and it’s effects

I m strong on this I don’t ever think it’s right
Katie Prices face is frightening and her bosoms have a life of their own
I keep seeing beautiful young girls on TV with huge lips that look so awful and so unappealing
Going further, look at the women usually young who have either lost their lives or needed NHS urgent treatment after going abroad or to unqualified practitioners
I think it’s huge vanity

Just been discussin this with our teenage grand-daughter and so glad she agrees it is just awful and that she would never consider it. She is lucky however to be a stunning young woman.

I agree with BlueBelle
For older women it can make a difference in a good way, I do know someone who has regular botox and fillers and she looks great, I don’t have the money for it, but if done well can be amazing.

Thanks for starting this cossy.
I think it is generally terrible. I would go further and say that I think some of the medical professionals involved should be prosecuted.

Agreed Galaxy. DO NO HARM.

I don’t even think it’s good on older people we should be proud of what our faces and bodies show it’s our history, it’s us, why smooth it all out and make it all disappear and become a ironed unnatural version of out real selves
It’s vanity it’s unnatural and in young people it’s a total shame

Depends on the older person and how they look, also it can be done in a natural looking way, less is more.

I can understand someone who has huge nose, or some really difficult facial problem having plastic surgery - and the dividing line between aesthetic and remedial plastic surgery can b e grey and fuzzy at times

Other than that I see plastic surgery as being self-mutilation. Look at Katie Price. her response to every setback in her life is - plastic surgery -, I have lost count of how many boob jobs she has had, plus all the rest. It is clear that her plastic surgery has nothing to do with quietly enhancing her looks but some visceral need for self -harm, with someone else doing the damage for you.

The same applies to that group of girls, and it is only a small group, who from a young age are having fillers and botox and other treatments. With all of them, the before is better than the after.

I am not saying that we shouldn't look after ourselves, titivate a bit, but physically changing your body strikes me as deeply unsettling.

Not something I’d want, or have ever wanted.
It’s worrying when women, especially older women feel so judged that they need to have surgery in order not to be passed over for jobs, rôles or promotion.
They possibly feel they’ll be judged one way or the other, so they go for something that makes them feel better.
If it would improve their self esteem, then why not?

I do agree with M0nica and other posters; I don't understand why young girls have to do this to themselves, when they are all so lovely and look amazing anyway. I don't know where the pressure is coming from. Very plumped up lips and frozen foreheads are very off putting.
I try not to watch anything about Katie Price, I feel there is something deeply disturbing there.
I have no problem with women who spend their own money on procedures to help them live their lives as they wish, hence I will defend CV and her choices, I agree there are some more famous women who have gone too far, but again it is their choice.
I love those women who just look after themselves, enjoy their lives, and age as the rest of us in society do

Very anti cosmetic surgery here. Done by people with too much money and not enough sense! Is social media partly to blame?

To be avoided and that includes any fillers. These cosmetic procedures are very addictive and before long it goes from just enhancers to more and more plastic surgery. A female in my extended family is just over 50 and now has a face that looks like a plastic puppet and boobs to match. Looks awful

Galaxy

Thanks for starting this cossy.
I think it is generally terrible. I would go further and say that I think some of the medical professionals involved should be prosecuted.

Yes I agree.

I am absolutely not against plastic surgery per-say, there are times when it’s essential and in cases where perhaps very large noses and huge bosoms are causing issues surgery is a great answer, but those awful trout lips, Brazilian butt lips and huge breast implants are frankly horrific!

Honestly, check this out!

Sad and tragic!

www.google.co.uk/search?q=plastic+surgery+gone+wrong&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#vhid=J-JP9DnxHcFNJM&vssid=_5EAdZ9CNA6-4hbIP-OWB2Ao_30

gentleshores

Very anti cosmetic surgery here. Done by people with too much money and not enough sense! Is social media partly to blame?

Yes, I think it is partially to blame, but I blame greedy plastic surgeons more!!

Anyone on here ever seen the TV programme “Botched?”

In my early 50s and working full time I used to enjoy having regular facial treatments. However, when the salon I went to began to offer invasive treatments such as filler and Botox I felt very uneasy and had a long conversation with the owner about the ethics of this. My daughter was in her teens and I felt very strongly that I would be letting her down if I ever gave her the message that she needed to alter herself in any way to be acceptable to others (or worse still, to herself). I decided to stop going there.

Weren’t many of us of the generation of women’s libbers who believed that even makeup was pandering to the patriarchy? I felt I’d sold out by shaving my underarms . I have been known to wear makeup as an adult but I’m basically lazy and can’t be bothered, nor do I like the feel of it. I’m far too much of a coward to ever put myself through unnecessary surgery. Why can’t we just accept ourselves, as we are and accept the changes as they come?

Each to their own but I just can’t get my head round it I’m anti cosmetic surgery I blame Instagram Tik tok brigade

Plastic surgery is wonderful if carried out by the right people and for the right reasons.

Correcting disfigurement, for burns victims, cancer patients.

Don't dismiss it out-of-hand just because some people use it for vanity and go to extremes and it goes too far or goes wrong .

Allira

Plastic surgery is wonderful if carried out by the right people and for the right reasons.

Correcting disfigurement, for burns victims, cancer patients.

Don't dismiss it out-of-hand just because some people use it for vanity and go to extremes and it goes too far or goes wrong .

This.

Obviously, it depends upon what the plastic surgery is for. If it’s just to “make you look younger” or enhance your figure or other purely cosmetic procedures, then having it could be questionable (but again, this might be more to do with the persons emotional perception of themself, but a good surgeon should help them to reach the best decision).
However, if the plastic surgery is to help someone who has a disfigurement of some kind that they have been born with or developed or acquired through accident/injury/illness, then this should be acknowledged by us and not dismissed as vanity.

Ziplok

Obviously, it depends upon what the plastic surgery is for. If it’s just to “make you look younger” or enhance your figure or other purely cosmetic procedures, then having it could be questionable (but again, this might be more to do with the persons emotional perception of themself, but a good surgeon should help them to reach the best decision).
However, if the plastic surgery is to help someone who has a disfigurement of some kind that they have been born with or developed or acquired through accident/injury/illness, then this should be acknowledged by us and not dismissed as vanity.

I completely agree

Ziplok

Obviously, it depends upon what the plastic surgery is for. If it’s just to “make you look younger” or enhance your figure or other purely cosmetic procedures, then having it could be questionable (but again, this might be more to do with the persons emotional perception of themself, but a good surgeon should help them to reach the best decision).
However, if the plastic surgery is to help someone who has a disfigurement of some kind that they have been born with or developed or acquired through accident/injury/illness, then this should be acknowledged by us and not dismissed as vanity.

I think it has always been clear on this thread from the very start, that we are talking about vanity plastic surgery. Surgery done for aesthetic reasons, not surgery done for therapeutic reasons.

Twelve years ago, following a car accident , DD left most of the skin on her right forearm on the A1(M), somewhere between the M25 junction and Hatfield. From A&E, she went straight to the plastic surgery department. She had 3 operations in the 10 days before she was discharged and over the next 5 years before final discharge had innumerable more operations and treatments to make the very large scar as aesthetically satisfactory as they could.

It was the NHS at its very best. Her injury was relatively unusual, but she shared her ward with the many people left scarred by burns and scalds.

Obviously, no one is talking about that kind of surgery, in this thread.

DD has never been remotely embarrassed by her scar, which is only too visible. She is a swimmer, going swimming several times a week, she wears short sleeves in summer and if anyone enquires, she will tell them how she ot the scar. In fact, the reaction of most people reflects her own, they either fail to see it, mentally or actually, and do sometimes ask her how she acquired it, and she tells them.

Plastic surgery is used, one,to repair accidental damage to tissues and 2. plastic surgery is also used to change tissues to make them more aesthetically pleasing.

Some people endure appearances and disabilities which without elective plastic surgery would be such as to make their lives miserable.

MOnica, you introduce the idea of vanity. Medical ethics would disallow any reputable plastic surgeon creating monstrosities.
Do you consider that vanity is sometimes a case for psychiatry?