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Bea65 Mon 23-Dec-24 03:58:16

Visited a favourite local restaurant which is normally good service, tasty dishes, bit pricey so only visit couple of times a year.. yesterday went with AD whose meal was seafood with noodles and sauce - looked great and she said it was delicious …mine was a steak Malbec pie dish with garlic mash and tender stem broccoli… I put the tip end of knife into the pie and knife was cold - only god knows what prompted me to test the heat of pie- never done this in restaurant before..my daughter scowled at me and I said it’s not cooked thru…waitress stopped at table and asked if meals ok. I said sorry (why do we say sorry for something when haven’t done anything wrong) anyway, said pie is cold..she asked me if I wanted another/new dish…said no I wanted the pie…took plate away and daughter stopped eating but I said ..please eat while it’s warm! But it’s uncomfortable when only one of you is eating ..some 5-7 mins later the pie came back think it was the original one as could tell from where I had stabbed it in the middle AND the pastry wasn’t golden brown but on the pale side and not that nice but pie was now hot 🔥 but the garlic mash seemed to have shrunk in size 👀the gravy in pot on side was so salty- it was awful couldn’t pour it over the pie - (should have asked waitress for a glass of Malbec ) when a new waitress stopped by to ask if dish was ok…I begrudgingly said it’s ok - it wasn’t but daughter had nearly finished and I didn’t want to spoil the evening 🙅🏻‍♀️
When time to pay I nearly said I didn’t think I should pay full price- am I being a pedant about this?
Am soo disappointed .. will let them know when they ask me to complete a customer service email .. they normally do ..
Typing this as now early morning so SORRY not SORRY for rambling on ..🙏

mae13 Mon 23-Dec-24 04:11:32

So, no Michelin Stars? If this place is normally good then it sounds like it was having an 'off' day - but you're not paying for an 'off' experience, not at today's prices.

Grammaretto Mon 23-Dec-24 04:37:06

It's not too late to tell the restaurant about your experience. As it was a one off, don't give a bad review but explain, as you have here.
They need to know. You may be offered some compensation or at least an explanation and apology.

madeleine45 Mon 23-Dec-24 06:33:09

Nothing to be sorry for. It cheers me to think I am not the only one up at this time. When you know that the restaurant is usually good it is both a shock and a disappointment when you get something like this. We can all have an off day of course, no one is perfect. However I would not have reacted as you did so
1. Ignore your daughters scowl or whatever anyone else who is with you does. The issue is with your food. She was happy with hers , but in no way would I let someone intimidate me , or stop me from dealing with my own situation
2. I would have done as you did first and allowed that there may be a one off and let them take it away. However, when it is clear that all they have done is , take the pie and shove it in the microwave to just heat it up, with no care at all , I would have asked to see either the chef or the manager, and refused to eat it. If I bothered to eat anything at all after that it would be something completely different , so there was no chance of your waiting to be re served a poorly made dish.
3. You need to learn (practice in front of a mirror on your own) not to say Sorry for a start. Then again I mentally rehearse my complaints whether it is food or clothes or whatever. I was head of communications in several large companies, which meant that I had , in those days telex , teleprinters, some computers and the telephonists. The telephonists are the first people you speak to when you ring to complain. They answer you quickly and politely and ask who you wish to speak to. Yet many people dont even stop to recognise that their complaint is with the maintenance or the accounts or whatever. The fact that they ring at a busy time, or your employer is too mean to have enough staff to keep up with the calls, can mean that they have had to wait to be answered. Of course they are angry that they are kept waiting , but if they thought for one moment, they would realize that the person answering them was not part of the problem. I know that in one firm I was known as the Dragon, as I would be very quick to intervene and ask that my staff were treated politely. So in your case, I would not say Sorry, but would ask to speak to the manager or chef in a firm but not raised voice. Look the waiter in the eye, dont mumble and then sit very still, dont fiddle with the cutlery or fidget, and just sit quietly, showing that you have no intention to do anything until someone has come to speak with you. When they arrive, you can begin by saying you were very disappointed on this occasion , as you have always been pleased (or satisfied) in the past but that today, not only was it not fit to eat, but when it was brought back it was obvious that it had just been heated up.
4. The response should be an immediate apology, followed by an offer of a another dish of your choice, and of course you would not be expected to pay for the food in question. I would also expect to be offered some sort of compensation, for example, offered a glass of wine or a coffee free.
5 if that is the response you get, all is well and good, and you can leave , saying it has been a shame today but you hope things will be better next time. If you are a regular customer and they know you they will be pleased to be able to redeem themselves. This shows you as being reasonable and prepared to give them another chance. That you are not trying to get free food by complaining whenever you go out etc.
6. If there is any blustering, or bad attitude, where they try to blame you as the customer, then state that you will not pay for your food, as it was inedible, pay in cash for the meal that your daughter had (dont give your details or card) and then get up, collect your things in a calm manner and leave.

(I am assuming from your post that you only tried one small mouthful. In the past I was once sat in a restaurant where a man ate at least half of the meal and then complained!. You could understand if you had suddenly found a foreign object or something on the plate but surely you know after a couple of forkfuls that there is a problem!!)

I have lived abroad, and travelled widely, and have ranged from being the host of a large party to many times eating alone. Eating alone, I am quite happy not to take a table for 4 or whatever , but if they try to shunt me off to the table near the toilets or the banging door near the kitchen, I just look round for a suitable table and go across and sit down. If it did not say reserved on it , they can not complain. Only once was I asked to go to a very inferior table as I was on my own. I replied, no I preferred the table by the window. It was quite lucky that I also had a reservation for the following week for 4 of us from the firm to go there for lunch. The waiter ,obviously did not know me and said that he was expecting someone who always sat at the table I wanted. I replied that then they should have reserved it. He began to bluster and I just looked at him, said dont bother I will go elsewhere where I will get better service. Then added by the way you can cancel next weeks booking and it is unlikely that our firm will use you again. At that he looked worried and said Oh sorry , sit where you like. My reply was that I would like to sit in another restaurant and that in the future he should not make assumptions , because a woman came alone on that occasion. I hope that that made him think about his attitude. At the same time if somewhere is busy, I would try and find a small table and not take up one laid for four, but if it is just a quick lunch I say to the waiter that I am happy to share a table if anyone wishes to join me. Always remember that you are the customer and are equal to any other customer who pays their bill. The more we expect respect, the more we get it.
I try to live my life like the old adage "Do as you would be done by" but that also includes expect to be treated in a polite and respectable way and dont accept less. I think that a new years resolution especially for all women eating out alone should be I wont be treated in a less respectful manner than a man or a larger group. My money is as good as anyone!!

BlueBelle Mon 23-Dec-24 07:57:39

That’s a book Madelaine I really can’t read all that I m so sorry
I d have probably acted as you did at the time Bea and the time has passed now but I would have not paid the bill if it was expensive and as bad as you say …to take it away and warm it up in the microwave is really not on at all and as you say when others are eating it’s uncomfortable to be sitting waiting and uncomfortable for the eating alone
The whole evening was spoilt and I would give an honest review saying that you had always been happy but this time they fell well short

Grammaretto Mon 23-Dec-24 08:45:51

Dear Madeleine
What a reply!

My in-laws ran an hotel at which I helped at busy times and, mea culpa, have been guilty on more than one occasion of serving either the wrong thing or at the wrong temperature.
Think a pot of cold tea 😦

Sometimes people would say nothing at the time and stoically finish their meal. Only after they had left did we discover. I.e. the urn was stone cold.

Sometimes it's hard to complain without causing embarrassment especially if someone else is paying.

I still think a message to the restaurant manager explaining what had happened would be the better response.

JenniferEccles Mon 23-Dec-24 09:03:29

I’m wondering why your daughter scowled at you when you said your pie was cold? You were perfectly justified in sending it back, and yes, I agree the restaurant should have properly apologised and given you a discount on the bill.

Mollygo Mon 23-Dec-24 09:06:15

Sorry you had a bad experience Bea65.

It is more awkward complaining when you’re with somebody, especially if they’re paying or it’s a celebration meal.

Last time I had a problem was also with a pie. I simply couldn’t get the knife through the pastry crust. It was so rock hard you could hear if you tapped it with a knife.
I was offered a replacement, but decided not to bother, but just have a coffee.
They gave me my starter and coffee for free.

Grammaretto
Yours is a good way to deal with it if the restaurant is usually good and you feel they dealt with your complaint seriously, especially if you like to eat there.

However, if the OP gets no response to her customer survey, I’d probably go with a bad review about the specific meal.

Sparklefizz Mon 23-Dec-24 10:11:25

Wow Madeleine45 Very impressed with your attitude.

Primrose53 Mon 23-Dec-24 10:18:15

We had this once and I immediately told the waitress and she said “we always serve it like that.” I said “well I don’t want cold food on a hot plate so please take it away and deduct it from our bill.” She did.

pascal30 Mon 23-Dec-24 10:27:12

I would write a formal letter of complaint to the restaurant and say you expect a free meal in compensation.. They definitely shouldn't have heated up your meal..

GrannyGravy13 Mon 23-Dec-24 10:35:07

There is absolutely nothing wrong with complaining if the food ordered is cold, not as described, tastes odd, etc., as long as it is done in such a way that is respectful and discreet.

It is the only way that the kitchen will know they have made a mistake.

Bea65 Mon 23-Dec-24 10:49:05

Grammaretto

It's not too late to tell the restaurant about your experience. As it was a one off, don't give a bad review but explain, as you have here.
They need to know. You may be offered some compensation or at least an explanation and apology.

🙏 will do this later today
Madeleine, 🙏 ..you sound super confident 👌
I used to be more confident myself in earlier life and also quite well travelled ….
Jennifer - Why my daughter scowled- not sure - maybe she didn’t like the way I stabbed the pie in the middle instead of cutting into it - just from the look of the pie it didn’t appear cooked and so needed confirmation that it wasn’t.
I’ve not asked her as she’s only visiting from NYC till Boxing Day and wish to keep everything merry and peaceful 🤞🏻
Bluebelle- yes I did feel our evening was spoilt 🤕 and our time together is precious to me
Molly - yes was surprised not to be offered a glass of wine while waiting as we had ordered and received our Bubbles or, a coffee afterwards ?
I’ve been a member of their Premier Dining club for few years now and often receive complimentary codes - this time they only offered 1 complimentary glass of Moët which I passed to daughter- in the past it was 2 complimentary glasses… maybe management has changed or is struggling 🙅🏻‍♀️
When I do submit my review I will also mention that I don’t like the staff talking your phone from table to scan the codes at the main till ..am very aware of phone spoofing and scams too!

RosiesMaw2 Mon 23-Dec-24 11:30:15

I think you should complain at the time and give them the opportunity to put things right. It need not be unpleasant, it’s not necessarily the waiters fault but how can the kitchen get things right if nobody points out their omissions?
Harder when you are a guest but that should then be up to your host.
People do often make a song and dance about poor service or food, seething inwardly, moaning afterwards or “sucking it up” even if it chokes them.
Just say!

David49 Mon 23-Dec-24 11:34:12

One of my pet hates is a normally good restaurant serving a poor meal, especially if you’re there with friends and they have drawn the short straw. I don’t complain and spoil the meal but they do get a bad review online. There is no excuse it takes no more effort to serve a good meal.

Shinamae Mon 23-Dec-24 12:06:00

I had some liver at a local restaurant. It was bitter. I complained at the time but the chef didn’t come out. Nothing was done. My son was paying for the bill and he didn’t like me making a fuss but when I got home I emailed them and they sent me a voucher for £15 but I would never eat there again anyway.

Tizliz Mon 23-Dec-24 12:28:44

We had a lunch out on a Sunday. Large country pub but very quiet. Skinny little male waiter seemed ok. OH just wanted an omelet but when it came it looked horrible and OH said it didn’t taste right so called the waiter back and explained the problem. He said he would get the chef. She was the opposite - big and quarrelsome. She picked up my husband’s fork (!) and tried the food, declared there was nothing wrong and stomped back to the kitchen. We didn’t pay for it but the waiter was more scared of her and hurried us out. Laugh about it now but it did spoil a rare day out. Never went back but I don’t think they would have lasted long - we should have paid more attention to the quiet car park

HelterSkelter1 Mon 23-Dec-24 12:30:50

I want to be you when I grow up. Madeleine45

HelterSkelter1 Mon 23-Dec-24 12:39:58

But as I am 75 and 3/4 there's not much chance now!!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 23-Dec-24 12:54:38

If you don't expect consideration, you won't get it - I totally agree with you Madeleine! It means that if you don't communicate your needs and clearly indicate that you deserve to be treated with respect and thoughtfulness, people are less likely to naturally provide it; essentially, you need to actively assert your need for consideration to receive it in most situations. I’m proactive when I need to be. It can be done nicely (and discreetly - also important).

Cabbie21 Mon 23-Dec-24 13:13:20

Bea65, what did you want to happen when you said the pie was cold? Politeness, apology, respect, money off, yes, but what would have been the right thing to do with the food, for you?

Bea65 Mon 23-Dec-24 13:17:33

David49

One of my pet hates is a normally good restaurant serving a poor meal, especially if you’re there with friends and they have drawn the short straw. I don’t complain and spoil the meal but they do get a bad review online. There is no excuse it takes no more effort to serve a good meal.

Agree David ..have received ‘hope you enjoyed your visit’ email and completed the survey - this was a special evening for us and it was spoilt…
This is what puts me off dining out at this time of year as can be a hit and miss situation 🎄

Bea65 Mon 23-Dec-24 13:22:10

Cabbie21

Bea65, what did you want to happen when you said the pie was cold? Politeness, apology, respect, money off, yes, but what would have been the right thing to do with the food, for you?

Don’t understand your comment- I called the waitress over discreetly and said sorry the pie is cold and she said sorry I will return it to kitchen and then some 5/7 minutes later, plate returned- pie had been microwaved IMO

Happygirl79 Mon 23-Dec-24 13:22:12

madeleine45

Nothing to be sorry for. It cheers me to think I am not the only one up at this time. When you know that the restaurant is usually good it is both a shock and a disappointment when you get something like this. We can all have an off day of course, no one is perfect. However I would not have reacted as you did so
1. Ignore your daughters scowl or whatever anyone else who is with you does. The issue is with your food. She was happy with hers , but in no way would I let someone intimidate me , or stop me from dealing with my own situation
2. I would have done as you did first and allowed that there may be a one off and let them take it away. However, when it is clear that all they have done is , take the pie and shove it in the microwave to just heat it up, with no care at all , I would have asked to see either the chef or the manager, and refused to eat it. If I bothered to eat anything at all after that it would be something completely different , so there was no chance of your waiting to be re served a poorly made dish.
3. You need to learn (practice in front of a mirror on your own) not to say Sorry for a start. Then again I mentally rehearse my complaints whether it is food or clothes or whatever. I was head of communications in several large companies, which meant that I had , in those days telex , teleprinters, some computers and the telephonists. The telephonists are the first people you speak to when you ring to complain. They answer you quickly and politely and ask who you wish to speak to. Yet many people dont even stop to recognise that their complaint is with the maintenance or the accounts or whatever. The fact that they ring at a busy time, or your employer is too mean to have enough staff to keep up with the calls, can mean that they have had to wait to be answered. Of course they are angry that they are kept waiting , but if they thought for one moment, they would realize that the person answering them was not part of the problem. I know that in one firm I was known as the Dragon, as I would be very quick to intervene and ask that my staff were treated politely. So in your case, I would not say Sorry, but would ask to speak to the manager or chef in a firm but not raised voice. Look the waiter in the eye, dont mumble and then sit very still, dont fiddle with the cutlery or fidget, and just sit quietly, showing that you have no intention to do anything until someone has come to speak with you. When they arrive, you can begin by saying you were very disappointed on this occasion , as you have always been pleased (or satisfied) in the past but that today, not only was it not fit to eat, but when it was brought back it was obvious that it had just been heated up.
4. The response should be an immediate apology, followed by an offer of a another dish of your choice, and of course you would not be expected to pay for the food in question. I would also expect to be offered some sort of compensation, for example, offered a glass of wine or a coffee free.
5 if that is the response you get, all is well and good, and you can leave , saying it has been a shame today but you hope things will be better next time. If you are a regular customer and they know you they will be pleased to be able to redeem themselves. This shows you as being reasonable and prepared to give them another chance. That you are not trying to get free food by complaining whenever you go out etc.
6. If there is any blustering, or bad attitude, where they try to blame you as the customer, then state that you will not pay for your food, as it was inedible, pay in cash for the meal that your daughter had (dont give your details or card) and then get up, collect your things in a calm manner and leave.

(I am assuming from your post that you only tried one small mouthful. In the past I was once sat in a restaurant where a man ate at least half of the meal and then complained!. You could understand if you had suddenly found a foreign object or something on the plate but surely you know after a couple of forkfuls that there is a problem!!)

I have lived abroad, and travelled widely, and have ranged from being the host of a large party to many times eating alone. Eating alone, I am quite happy not to take a table for 4 or whatever , but if they try to shunt me off to the table near the toilets or the banging door near the kitchen, I just look round for a suitable table and go across and sit down. If it did not say reserved on it , they can not complain. Only once was I asked to go to a very inferior table as I was on my own. I replied, no I preferred the table by the window. It was quite lucky that I also had a reservation for the following week for 4 of us from the firm to go there for lunch. The waiter ,obviously did not know me and said that he was expecting someone who always sat at the table I wanted. I replied that then they should have reserved it. He began to bluster and I just looked at him, said dont bother I will go elsewhere where I will get better service. Then added by the way you can cancel next weeks booking and it is unlikely that our firm will use you again. At that he looked worried and said Oh sorry , sit where you like. My reply was that I would like to sit in another restaurant and that in the future he should not make assumptions , because a woman came alone on that occasion. I hope that that made him think about his attitude. At the same time if somewhere is busy, I would try and find a small table and not take up one laid for four, but if it is just a quick lunch I say to the waiter that I am happy to share a table if anyone wishes to join me. Always remember that you are the customer and are equal to any other customer who pays their bill. The more we expect respect, the more we get it.
I try to live my life like the old adage "Do as you would be done by" but that also includes expect to be treated in a polite and respectable way and dont accept less. I think that a new years resolution especially for all women eating out alone should be I wont be treated in a less respectful manner than a man or a larger group. My money is as good as anyone!!

I am so impressed with your response ,courtesy and common sense. Your reply is wonderful.

Grammaretto Mon 23-Dec-24 14:36:33

We took DD and family out to a country pub for Sunday lunch a few years back. It was really crowded and short staffed so we had to wait ages for our meals which were pretty ordinary.
Because it was her recommendation, and she had made the booking, DD was embarrassed by the poor
service she had to hunt down a highchair etc and afterwards she said she would complain to the manager.
What she did do is write them a stinker of a review on tripadvisor which we, her parents, and her DGP thought was over the top.