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Labour has come under fire after refusing to hold a public inquiry into historic sexual abuse by grooming gangs in Oldham.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 02-Jan-25 13:35:45

Scandalous I think.
I’m with Elon Musk on this re his comments to Jess Phillips.

Elon Musk attacked the decision as “disgraceful” and Kemi Badenoch, the Conservative leader, said a full national inquiry into rape gangs was “long overdue”.

Jess Phillips, Labour’s safeguarding minister, insisted it was “for Oldham council alone”.

Really Jess?

Witzend Thu 02-Jan-25 13:42:52

Whatever the rights and wrongs, I firmly believe that Elon Musk should keep his nose out of our affairs!

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 02-Jan-25 13:43:48

I'm with Witzend

Ilovecheese Thu 02-Jan-25 13:46:41

Agree, he can mind his own business.

eazybee Thu 02-Jan-25 13:48:09

I agree with you, FGT, about the lack of investigation into the Oldham grooming abuse but I am increasingly tired of Elon Musk's opinions of the internal affairs of countries foreign to him being quoted as though they are his business.
Surely no coincidence that this was discussed at length last night on GB News.

JaneJudge Thu 02-Jan-25 13:48:41

he wants Jess to go to prison and for little Tommy to be released too.

MissAdventure Thu 02-Jan-25 13:48:57

I don't think Starmer was actually responsible for the decisions made at the time.
I'm probably wrong though, but I thought it happened just before he was on the scene.

I also think Musk needs to mind his own business.

J52 Thu 02-Jan-25 13:51:01

“Kemi Badenoch, the Conservative leader, said a full national inquiry into rape gangs was “long overdue”. “

so why didn’t her Government do something about it?

Elon Musk should keep his opinions to himself and concentrate on the safety of his cars.

Wyllow3 Thu 02-Jan-25 13:52:16

Had enough of his intrusive bullying.

FWIW, this is yet another O/P based on picking one thing out of possibly thousands of any given issue that "should have been done but refused" just to government bash

Why this particular issue? Why now? Why should "the government" take this on?

MissAdventure Thu 02-Jan-25 13:52:42

It was just as disgraceful when the tories were in power, presumably?

Wyllow3 Thu 02-Jan-25 13:55:21

Valid point - why didn't the current government take it up?

FWIW, there has already been an enquiry in 2022

"Children in Oldham were failed by the agencies meant to protect them from sexual abuse, a review has found.
The independent inquiry was set up after allegations circulated on social media that Oldham Council was covering up what it knew about grooming gangs in the town.

Investigators said there were structural flaws in Greater Manchester Police (GMP) and the council's systems which were meant to safeguard children.

They found no evidence of a cover-up

Aveline Thu 02-Jan-25 13:56:19

These grooming gangs are diabolical. They're nothing new and should have been dealt with very severely years ago.

MissAdventure Thu 02-Jan-25 14:00:17

Something and nothing, regarding how "disgraceful" this government are.

Perhaps Mr. Musk would like to put that in his pipe and smoke it.

Wyllow3 Thu 02-Jan-25 14:01:53

I thought it might be good to give a reference for the Public Enquiry that I quoted above and has already happened

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-61863603

Please read the details of this very full and open enquiry including what was said by Andy Burnham the mayor and other key figures.

Anniebach Thu 02-Jan-25 14:02:03

He also wants Tommy Robinson released

Wyllow3 Thu 02-Jan-25 14:04:37

"The review was commissioned in November 2019 by Oldham Council. It requested that Mr Burnham and the Greater Manchester Safeguarding Standards Board's independent chair conduct a review into safeguarding practices in Oldham.
The 202-page report is authored by Malcolm Newsam, a renowned child care expert, and Gary Ridgeway, a former detective superintendent with Cambridgeshire Police."

It was a full and proper enquiry, why does Musk in all his great wisdom think there needs to be another? (I bet he didn't even know there had been a full enquiry)

MissAdventure Thu 02-Jan-25 14:05:33

🙄 Somebody has to, I guess.

Wyllow3 Thu 02-Jan-25 14:09:15

Aveline

These grooming gangs are diabolical. They're nothing new and should have been dealt with very severely years ago.

It has started happening Aveline. The last Conservative government set up measures in 2022.

"Grooming Gangs Taskforce arrests hundreds in first year

A dedicated police taskforce set up to bring down grooming gangs has supported police forces in England and Wales to make hundreds of arrests in its first year. "

read here:
www.gov.uk/government/news/grooming-gangs-taskforce-arrests-hundreds-in-first-year

GB news and Musk -do keep up!

rafichagran Thu 02-Jan-25 14:14:57

Elon Musk should mind his own business, and look to the injustices that happen to the black, poor, and people either learning disabilities, and mental health in the USA. His country is a disgrace at times.

MissAdventure Thu 02-Jan-25 14:15:12

Thanks, Wyllow3.

I thought it would be hard to find out info, but it's all there, isn't it?

You'd think GB news would have checked.

Wyllow3 Thu 02-Jan-25 14:19:11

Or perhaps Musk should say something about grooming gangs in his own country?

"In recent years the subject of child sexual exploitation has been at the forefront of most news channels in Europe but America has shied away from it, it is something that American networks would rather talk about others problems instead of their own.

Reason being? It’s likely America has the worst grooming gang scandal of all time and does not want to confront the problem

America does not use the term “grooming” like European nations do, child sexual exploitation falls under the term “sex trafficking”. However, “sex trafficking” does not convey the true nature of the abuse these young girls suffer and also implies they are adults, not children.

Because of the covert nature of child grooming, reliable estimates of the number of youth affected are lacking.

UNICEF has estimated that 300,000 minors are prostituted in the USA every single year, others have estimated 100,000.

It is without a doubt however that the number of children sexually exploited in the USA every year is from at least 100,000 to 350,000

medium.com/@jackmorton2406/americas-grooming-gang-epidemic-tens-of-thousands-of-girls-and-children-abused-every-year-27a9b626f992

Wyllow3 Thu 02-Jan-25 14:23:28

MissAdventure

Thanks, Wyllow3.

I thought it would be hard to find out info, but it's all there, isn't it?

You'd think GB news would have checked.

GB are not a reliable news source, if it was, the homework would have been done, for example, the previous enquiry alluded to in detail before explaining why another was thought to be so necessary:

it should also have alluded to the task force set up by the previous government, which is tacking matters in the present.

Silverling48 Thu 02-Jan-25 14:27:46

Don’t understand why OP states Labour has ‘come under fire’.
By whom? Elon musk? gb news? Ah, all clear now.
Perhaps mr musk should take more of an interest in what’s going on in his country.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 02-Jan-25 14:48:05

Letter from Jess Phillips, safeguarding minister.

JP was so very vocal against the Conservatives for not doing enough, something I agree with, now she is backtracking.

Oreo Thu 02-Jan-25 14:50:23

rafichagran

Elon Musk should mind his own business, and look to the injustices that happen to the black, poor, and people either learning disabilities, and mental health in the USA. His country is a disgrace at times.

I thought he was a South African citizen? I don’t think he has any right to interfere in any other country’s business including the US.