Labour has come under fire after refusing to hold a public inquiry into historic sexual abuse by grooming gangs in Oldham.

Musk's comments about Jess Phillips could put her in real danger. He doesn't give a fig about children, he just wants to disrupt our democracy.

Yes Lizzie using children for political purposes is vile

Dont know maybe not as low as the perpetrators and those who refuse to discuss it because they are guilty of institutional cowardice.

There is a very good article in The Spectator about the grooming gangs. It is by Louise Perry. A version of it also appeared in her Substack, and she has written a book The Case Against the Sexual Revolution.
She is also host of the podcast Maiden Mother Matriarch.

Yes she is interesting, and brave.

Well posted OHWL - what Maggie Oliver Actually Said.
It bears repeating.
Read it again.

It encapsulates my support for a National Inquiry.

To join up the dots.
This is not just independent Council’s remit now. It’s too widespread and insidious. It’s STILL happening. It’s still in the news. Allegations. New instances.

Does this answer your question to me Jean@home?
It ought to.

Here …. as it really does bear repeating, (thanks OhHowWeLaughed for the direct quote) …

Maggie Oliver’s own words:

“That’s not in truth what I said @nazirafzal . I said that ALL THESE ENQUIRIES including @IICSAVSCP Rochdale, Augusta, Oldham have all led absolutely NOWHERE! Nothing changes. Millions wasted. Lawyers getting rich defending the indefensible.

Because those leading these “enquiries” have always wanted to cover up the truth, to hide it. And I’d say it’s become even worse in recent months with those who dare to speak out finding themselves in prison within a couple of DAYS….. when victims wait 6/7/8 years for a trial!! Corrupt and just wrong!

I firmly believe we need totally independent people who will ensure it’s not just another attempt to delay and hide the truth. Radical change and overhaul of all our public bodies. And bring in. Criminal accountability for all our senior police and public officials who have turned a blind eye.

Those with vested interests who pop up when this hits the headlines then fade away again when it all dies down will not bring change. They’re in it for themselves I believe. Conservatives and labour are all equally to blame imo, and @Keir_Starmer as former DPP is perhaps as guilty as anyone I know in where we find ourselves today.

We all know what’s going on, but I don’t trust a single one of those who to date have been entrusted with keeping our children safe and prosecuting serial rapists. They’ve failed. Repeatedly. Knowingly. Criminally.”

Donna Jones Police and Crime Commissioner of Hampshire and the Isle of White, has stated it is still going on! Very clearly there should be an enquiry.

If MO says ^Because those leading these “enquiries” have always wanted to cover up the truth^thats good enough for me. I’m with her, totally. This issue needs to be dealt with nationally. Not by little groups let by Councils.

Right, we’re going round in circles.
I’m out.

Maggie Oliver knows what she is saying…

She also I imagine knows who and why is covering up…

Maggie Oliver does know. Long may she keep going. My worry for her is that it is so deep rooted and involves people with power in this country, what might they do to stop her?

Maybe we should ask the victims whether they want another Inquiry?

Seems the victims are of no importance to Farage and Musk and their admirers

love0c

Maggie Oliver does know. Long may she keep going. My worry for her is that it is so deep rooted and involves people with power in this country, what might they do to stop her?

What on earth are you suggesting here?

Dickens

Maybe we should ask the victims whether they want another Inquiry?

All the victims that I have seen/heard interviewed want things to change and stop the abuse which is continuing.

There are men in this country who see women/girls as theirs to use as and when, regardless of age. A person is seen as fit for marriage as soon as they hit puberty, Islam marks this event when boys have their first seminal discharge and girls at menarche.

Islam doesn’t have an age of consent/marriage an infant girl can be married. The age of penetration according to most clerics is 9 years old, because of Mo’s example he set with Aisha.

What’s worse is aside from penetration a man can do almost anything else he wants to his wife at any age.

All and/or any U.K. authorities should not tiptoe round the above due to cultural sensitivity.

Nobody should be above the law, regardless of colour, ethnicity or religion, whether it be the Muslim cleric, Catholic priest, C of E Bishop or rich man on his Island (Jeffrey Epstein and Co.)

Dickens

Maybe we should ask the victims whether they want another Inquiry?

Samantha Smith

The issue isn’t that Oldham was denied. Indeed, Telford and Rotherham had requests for a inquiry rejected by a Tory government.

Both had to commission their own inquiry, and are responsible for implementing the recommendations.

The problem is that grooming gangs aren’t isolated or rare, nor are they only active in a few small towns. Little girls have been — and still are — groomed, raped, exploited and murdered by Pakistani-Muslim men across the country.

CSE is a national epidemic.

So why are we continuing to treat it like it’s a localised issue?

Rotherham, Rochdale, Telford, Banbury, Oldham: these areas aren’t a few bad apples but rather the most notable examples of the disgusting abuse that has been replicated throughout the UK.

How long will it take for a government to start treating CSE like the nationwide scourge that it is and holding those in powerful positions responsible for their failings?

And Labour — who waxed lyrical about protecting victims and punishing the predators — failed to keep their promises the first moment they were tested.

Jess Phillips and others who claim to care about victims brushed the survivors of the Oldham scandal off with empty assurances about “understanding the depth of feeling” while refusing to extend government funding and support to bring their abusers to justice.

This isn’t just about Oldham.

This is about the decades-long pattern of ignorance that has downplayed the scale of Pakistani-Muslim grooming gangs in Britain and denied the need for national oversight and accountability.

How many enquiries do we need to have? How many reports do we need to read? How many little girls do we need to see failed by the authorities that were meant to protect them?

Shame on Jess Phillips
Shame on Labour.
Shame on them all.

There is task force in operation, though.

Musk's comments about Jess Phillips could put her in real danger

That concerns me too Ilovecheese. I just hope his late night (possibly drug fuelled) rants don’t whip up a (possibly) drug fuelled crazy person in the UK to do something awful.

Words have consequences!

Think you missed out on 'Shame on the Tory Government' for doing nothing about it during their 13/14 years of rule.

What an absolutely hideous thread this is. The subject matter, the rabble rousing , using abuse for point scoring and the last straw that Musk creature.

I take heart from ordinary people going about their business, including Muslims friends at the community centre.

I, also am out. Wish I had never been near this.

Lovely photo of Musk doing the rounds just now on Facebook. It shows this so called champion of sexually abused, underaged girls all dressed up for a glam occassion with the convicted sex offender Ghislaine Maxwell.

That just about sums up the whole disgusting situation, doesn't it?
And women support him, well...

Oh hold on I am losing track of the rules, I thought that was fine when Mandelson had the epstein association. His appointment was brave and thoughtful not disgusting.

Maremia

Lovely photo of Musk doing the rounds just now on Facebook. It shows this so called champion of sexually abused, underaged girls all dressed up for a glam occassion with the convicted sex offender Ghislaine Maxwell.

Since you've brought her into this thread do you ever wonder why only Maxwell is serving time as a sex offender and not one single male who used the girls? Who exactly did she traffic the girls to?

I'm no defender of Musk, he's a loud-mouthed opinionated idiot who's best ignored, but are you suggesting he availed himself of the underage girls Maxwell recruited?

I've no idea what the rules are.

I'm just amazed that anyone would want go within a good few feet away from someone involved in abuse of other humans.