Labour has come under fire after refusing to hold a public inquiry into historic sexual abuse by grooming gangs in Oldham.

Yes men
We have a world wide problem with men

Under no circumstances should there be enquiries that cover all domestic abuse, violence against women, that is too broad and will achieve nothing.
Oh and I disagree about Jess Phillips, she was useless in the last safeguarding issue ( single sex spaces) so I am afraid I dont trust her on issues relating to women and girls.
The women I do trust are all calling for specific enquiries.

Iam64

I’ve read the long bbc article on line, which gives the correct information, I’m sorry my tech skills are poor, or I’d provide a link.
Naz Shah retweeted a post from Owen Jones in anparody account. It said ‘exactly Areeq, those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of // diversity’.
She immediately deleted it, claiming it was an accident. Is it possible irony was involved? I don’t know but I agree wuth this quote -“ but NS had a 20 year record of working on the issues of child abuse, violence against women and grooming which is well documented ‘. (Full fact social media)

This is the article I think outlining what happened to Naz Shah and what really happened and her long record of speaking up and out

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-54373013

*The Leave.EU statement said: "While the publication had been intended to be satirical; we appreciate that it was ill-judged and untrue.

We accept that Ms Shah is not an 'apologist' for grooming gangs but is a vociferous campaigner for victims of grooming gangs

Thank you Wyllow

Thanks Wyllow. Naz Shah understands abuse of children and women in her community

Robert Jenrickin today’s Telegraph:

“ Even those who mention it tend to tiptoe around the subject. The “grooming gang” label is deployed euphemistically to sanitise depraved crimes and make them acceptable for public consumption. So we should start by calling it what it truly is. If you read the testimony of the victims – and believe me, it’s tough – it’s clear they were rape torture gangs, perpetrating the most heinous sexual crimes imaginable on an industrial scale.

For two decades, the plight of thousands of young girls, barely teenagers, was swept under the carpet. Police forces, councils, charities, and politicians elevated community relations over protecting vulnerable women from monstrous sexual violence. They allowed little girls to be raped rather than risk being accused of racism by highlighting their abuse. Their cowardice should haunt them.

But the scandal is now back with a vengeance. Safeguarding minister Jess Phillips’ decision to reject Oldham Council’s calls for a government-led inquiry has sparked outrage. On Wednesday, Elon Musk alighted on the scandal, shaming the establishment by taking more interest in bringing these rape gangs to justice in one evening than most of the British establishment has for decades.

The impunity has ended because the unvarnished truth is coming out. As recently as last year, the scandal was widely considered on the Left to be a Right-wing conspiracy theory. But the courageous victims and campaigners refused to be silenced. And a handful of brave reporters, like Charlie Peters at GB News, were willing to report what many mainstream media outlets wouldn’t.

Despite the physical intimidation, threats and false charges of Islamophobia, they kept digging away. What we once thought was confined to a few pockets is now known to have taken place up and down the country, everywhere from Bristol to Glasgow”

To protect “community relations”, the British state has gone to immense lengths to cover it up. Reports have been blocked and deliberately kept out of the public eye. Any connection with ethnicity, immigration, or Islam was downplayed. The reports that have been published have been whitewashed – the evidence that British Pakistani men were over-represented among the perpetrators was spiked to avoid uncomfortable truths. But a recent study showed that, in Telford, one in 126 Muslim men were prosecuted between 1997 and 2017, and in Rotherham the figure was one in 73.

I am certain that, after all these years, these rape gangs are still destroying lives. Somewhere, as you read this, a girl may be being abused just as despicably as the ones whose fate we now know of. Why? Because the institutions that failed these vulnerable girls are still contaminated with cowardice. Many perpetrators evaded arrest and remain on the streets. Those who were jailed received shockingly lax sentences and are now being released, free to walk the same streets as their victims.

The Tories had ample time to carry out full investigations when they were in government....now after being dumped by the people they are discovering a taste for justice and holding the complicit authorities accountable...

I will be voting for Reform. Again.

Musk, Trump,. Trump, Farage,. Musk Farage

Well, exactly. 💁

Lots of assertions, a few carefully selected stats. Yes, in those cases going back to 1990's one ethnic group was over represented.

No argument.

No excuses

But this Telegraph rhetoric is deliberately biased to create a particular narrative. ie, anti any party except for Reform (Despite some grossly racist and some sexist comments by Reform candidates).

How many times it it necessary to say that the largest proportion of grooming gangs are white and we have to look at the problem as a whole?

Anniebach

Musk, Trump,. Trump, Farage,. Musk Farage

Indeed. Better than Corbyn, Mrs May, Lammy and Reeves, no?

Trump better. ? no

If in this conversation the people you are angry at is Musk, etc then I dont know what to say.

Breaking news:

Both Nazir Afzal and Maggie Oliver mentioned in the threads above above as key figures in revealing the extent of past cases and as reliable and trustworthy figures as regards enquiries have have hit back at demands from senior Conservatives and the billionaire Elon Musk for a national inquiry into child sexual exploitation

"he catalyst for which was so-called grooming gangs. It cost millions and the last government failed to accept much of its recommendations.

“There has also been an inquiry headed up by [the former Conservative home secretary] Sajid Javid for the Centre for Social Justice which they ignored too,” he told the Guardian.

“Local independent inquiries of the sort carried out in Telford are more likely to achieve safer streets and protect victims.”

Oliver, who left the police to speak out about the lack of protection for victims, told the Guardian: “We’ve already had a national abuse inquiry – seven years, 20 recommendations and none implemented

“We need someone who is going to do something not just talk – more empty promises and political manoeuvrings.”

In other words, we've had the injuries, FGS get on and act on them dont ask for more!

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/02/ex-chief-prosecutor-rejects-musks-calls-for-new-child-abuse-inquiry

Sentence near the end should read

In other words, we've had the inquiries FGS get on and act on them dont ask for more!

Witzend

Whatever the rights and wrongs, I firmly believe that Elon Musk should keep his nose out of our affairs!

I agree!
Nothing to do with him.

2022:
But it has now emerged that in 2022, when the Tories were still in power, the then safeguarding minister Amanda Solloway also rejected Oldham Council’s request.

She said: “In relation to your request that the government institute a public inquiry, the government continues to be clear that it is for the local authorities in individual towns and cities, which are responsible for delivering local services, to commission local inquiries.

“It is essential that local areas learn from what happened in the past, and to take appropriate action to drive improvement in local services.”

The. Tories claim it’s overdue, ‘.

Galaxy

If in this conversation the people you are angry at is Musk, etc then I dont know what to say.

👏👏

Musk needs to concentrate his efforts on all that is wrong in the USA.

Well 100 Labour activists crossed the pond in support of Kamala.
Maybe sauce for the goose?

I have just commented on Afghanistan, is that ok under the new rules?

It’s too broad to say tbh

This has (successfully) turned into yet another anti-Labour, pro Reform thread artfully manoeuvred by FGT. Shame on you for using the appalling rapes of children to do so.

If Musk draws attention to a lack of action against these creeps well good for him. He is a human concerned about other humans and entitled to state the case. Who cares what country he comes from? Get your priorities right.

If he was so caring towards his fellow man why does he not use his vast wealth in a more philanthropic way? Better to ask who is feeding him this stuff and what’s in it for him?