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winter fuel payment and the government,

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madeleine45 Thu 02-Jan-25 22:39:51

How pleased the government must be, with this cold snap approaching. They should really save a lot of money now. Now we will no longe get the fuel payment and cannot afford to heat and eat, the very cold weather should finish quite a lot of us off, either by weakening us so that we get ill and dont get taken to hospital as no space. Then quite a few people who could survive if they were warm enough, had some food and someone to call on them, But with everything cut back , they should kill quite a lot of us. Then they can all mouth meaninless waffle and say theywill look into it. if they kill off enough of us and of course those of us waspi women who have been cheated out of our money wll no doubt be part of this group. All the politicians are as bad as one another. I know thqat not one politician will lose a moments sleep because we shall be in such a state. Well I have news for them> I shall hope to stay alive until I am 103 and will annoy the lot of them by stayng alive!!!!!!!

pascal30 Sun 05-Jan-25 17:13:06

Doodledog

*As an old-school socialist, I would rather have universalism than Thatcherite residual welfare. The former creates solidarity: everybody with a State Pension receives WFP; everybody with a child receives Child Benefit; everybody’s child can have a free school breakfast - whereas residual welfare causes division, as evidenced by the unfairness of what has happened over the withdrawal of universal WFP, ignoring those on the cliff-edge of Pension Credit. The cut-off is too low but wherever it is set, it will alway leave a body of people just missing out.*
Agreed. It’s the means-test that’s the problem. I never see means-testing as a solution and this is no exception.

I find the ‘bleating’ of people who can clearly afford to do without a boost of £200 (as evidenced by their posts about spending on other things) extremely offensive though. It is so obviously a dig at Keir Starmer and/or Rachel Reeves, as the same people moan about everything else the government does, and were conspicuously silent about the plight of the poor before money was being taken away from their own pockets.

That is not to ‘make excuses’ or ‘just because I voted Labour’ 🙄. It is because it looks so grasping and uncaring - the money could be better spent on those with not enough, but the moaners are too busy checking out the phones and nails of claimants to care about that.

I have lost a lot of faith in humanity since the GE. I am seriously considering a GN ‘detox’, as I think it is bad for my mental health.

It would be a loss of a voice of reason Doodledog

PoliticsNerd Mon 06-Jan-25 08:47:14

escaped

Exactly. But maybe some posters realise it is futile in the end so don't proffer a solution! It's often good to just read and reflect, and then moan!

Why bother to post if you see the discussion as futile? Solutions are not everyone's aim - mainly because they are not in our gift. Some just want to broaden their knowledge or challenge their current views.