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Fflaurie Thu 16-Jan-25 17:15:52

I was told yesterday that the thumbs up emoji and sign, is now classed as aggressive. I asked my DGD, she confirmed. This symbol has been used as ; OK, Great, I’m Fine for years by the armed services, divers and every day people. Woke has gone mad. Please stop the world, I want to get off.
πŸ‘πŸ» πŸ‘πŸ» πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»

granfromafar Thu 16-Jan-25 17:19:29

I use it a lot when I agree with whatever the person has said. What else are we supposed to use for 'OK'? (Please don't say 'OK'!)

Barleyfields Thu 16-Jan-25 17:28:25

I use it. What’s wrong with it? How is it aggressive?

Shelflife Thu 16-Jan-25 17:29:24

Aggressive - what's all that about !!! ?

rafichagran Thu 16-Jan-25 17:31:32

Yes I use it as well.

Grannybags Thu 16-Jan-25 17:33:34

Oh no! I’ve just answered my dil with a thumbs up - I hope she’s still talking to me!

escaped Thu 16-Jan-25 17:34:06

Well, if that's the case I'll move over to ❀️ then!

Daft!

maddyone Thu 16-Jan-25 17:42:28

I often use it to acknowledge a message that doesn’t require a reply.
Why is it aggressive? What’s aggressive about it?

Smileless2012 Thu 16-Jan-25 17:44:21

Ridiculous and I wont be taking any notice.

love0c Thu 16-Jan-25 17:45:43

Fortunately I do not have 'woke' friends!

Gwyllt Thu 16-Jan-25 17:54:03

I think friends know you and know you are not being aggressive πŸ‘

Babs03 Thu 16-Jan-25 17:56:02

Those people who don’t like it are free to stop using it but I will continue to use it as will many others. A storm in a teacup.

Babs03 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:05:26

In British sign language the thumbs up is used to denote agreement, positivity, and acceptance.

eazybee Thu 16-Jan-25 18:08:00

The fact that the poster's granddaughter confirmed that it is now aggressive says it all. Is the correct use of language and signs to be dictated by teenagers/young people?

Mollygo Thu 16-Jan-25 18:08:03

Another I want to change the accepted meaning to suit me decision. 😴

merlotgran Thu 16-Jan-25 18:08:31

I shall carry on using it.

Saves a lot of unnecessary typing.

FlitterMouse Thu 16-Jan-25 18:09:45

This from last summer explains:

english.elpais.com/lifestyle/2024-08-26/the-emoji-revolution-and-how-the-thumbs-up-came-to-be-passive-aggressive-and-old-fashioned.html

Generation Z consider it passive aggressive, while older people believe it is used as a sign of affirmation and agreement.

… it has a new function and is used to stop a conversation,” … β€œWhen you use this emoji at the end of a message, it seems somewhat blunt, because it indicates that the conversation is over. That is why some people think that its use is passive aggressive.

… this is precisely what happened with the laughing emoji, which ended up having a sarcastic nuance; now it is the turn of the thumbs-up emoji.

You see that used on this platform a lot - laughing emojis as sarcasm.

I don’t use emojis as I find them unnecessary but I had friends who would often respond with a thumbs up. I don’t think I’d label it passive aggressive but it did definitely feel like the other person was putting an end to the exchange when sometimes I thought there was more to say.

Ziplok Thu 16-Jan-25 18:16:37

I always thought it was the single index finger gesture that was rude. Never heard of the πŸ‘πŸΌ being rude, so will continue to use it where appropriate. I’m sure context is everything.

Ziplok Thu 16-Jan-25 18:17:18

Sorry, middle finger, not index finger 😁, getting myself muddled there.

Indigo8 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:22:32

eazybee

The fact that the poster's granddaughter confirmed that it is now aggressive says it all. Is the correct use of language and signs to be dictated by teenagers/young people?

I often check in with my GCs about modern usage; not because they are the arbiters but because they are taught to use language and symbols in a certain way at school.

I think what they are taught is dictated by school policy following decisions made, presumably, by older educators not teenagers.

Wyllow3 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:31:32

I don't think it's a 'woke thing' - no one has "taught" genZ the "new"meaning, it's casual language evolving - the new meaning is a new one on me. I also cant see why its a "stopper". It can mean I suppose "fine and thank you" but also "fine lets continue".

Wyllow3 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:35:35

The urban dictionary confirms its now seen at least as ambiguous.

Doodledog Thu 16-Jan-25 18:41:51

I understand why it seems that way, although I sometimes use it. If it's used after a message such as 'I'm waiting under the clock' it just means 'message received' and is fine.

If it is used after a conversation it does seem to say 'over and out' which could be perceived as a bit rude.

I don't think the British are very good at this sort of thing, are we? grin

FlitterMouse Thu 16-Jan-25 18:42:32

Wyllow3

I don't think it's a 'woke thing' - no one has "taught" genZ the "new"meaning, it's casual language evolving - the new meaning is a new one on me. I also cant see why its a "stopper". It can mean I suppose "fine and thank you" but also "fine lets continue".

I agree. It isn't woke just another "language" evolving.

I don't like emojis, especially when used on their own. I prefer real words but that's just me.

Occasionally, I catch Richard Osman's House of Games where they sometimes have an round where the title of something: book, film, TV show has to be depicted in emojis. I can never work it out.

valdali Thu 16-Jan-25 18:47:38

It's very convenient to end a conversation with when you've said all there is to say & recieve what seems like a "signing off" text. Otherside you can go backwards & forwards with no-one wanting be the one to not reply!

I can only think that gen Z feel they need to be available to their friends' comms to the second they're posted, all their waking hours. That would be a recipe for poor mental health, for me personally.