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Fflaurie Thu 16-Jan-25 17:15:52

I was told yesterday that the thumbs up emoji and sign, is now classed as aggressive. I asked my DGD, she confirmed. This symbol has been used as ; OK, Great, I’m Fine for years by the armed services, divers and every day people. Woke has gone mad. Please stop the world, I want to get off.
πŸ‘πŸ» πŸ‘πŸ» πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»πŸ‘πŸ»

hollysteers Thu 16-Jan-25 19:48:55

Paul McCartney is in trouble, it’s his standard response IRLπŸ‘πŸŽΌ

Mollygo Thu 16-Jan-25 19:42:33

LauraNorderr

I suppose if you want to say okay, understood the word would be β€˜Roger’
A whole new pearl clutching situation there.

🀣🀣🀣🀣
(That means your post made me laugh.

NonGrannyMoll Thu 16-Jan-25 19:32:35

I think the thumbs-up is now supposed to mean "Yeah yeah, whatever" (as in "change the record, I'm bored with this and I don't care what you think anyway"). I'm kind of glad that young people are starting to invent their own use of words again - just about sick of them saying "cool" every five minutes as though it wasn't even thought of in the 1950s jazz generation.

LauraNorderr Thu 16-Jan-25 19:25:20

I suppose if you want to say okay, understood the word would be β€˜Roger’
A whole new pearl clutching situation there.

escaped Thu 16-Jan-25 19:16:39

Lathyrus3

What do they use then to indicate that they don’t want to β€œtalk” anymore.

Do you just not answer?

🀐 ??

GrannyGravy13 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:58:32

Our family WhatsApp group age range is 9-74 the πŸ‘πŸ» emoji is used by all .

It’s shorthand for yes/ok

Not thinking of stopping anytime soon.

Lathyrus3 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:58:06

What do they use then to indicate that they don’t want to β€œtalk” anymore.

Do you just not answer?

Mollygo Thu 16-Jan-25 18:53:53

Presumably putting OK at the end of your post would also be seen as a termination of the conversation by those who see πŸ‘ that way.
I suppose I should now be offended by this text conversation today.
Grandma, please could you pick me up?
Yes, what time?
About 3.45 please.
From the usual place?
πŸ‘
Good that we both understood what it meant.

Rosie51 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:51:17

Valdali you posted while I was typing, you've expressed it better than me!

Rosie51 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:50:03

My sons and I all use it to react to a text that doesn't need a written reply. It does 'stop' those repeated back and forth 'thanks' 'no problem' type of texts. Not posted as a text but using the reaction mode and appears beside their text as a"I've seen this" notification. When it's really good news it can be a heart, if funny a HaHa etc

valdali Thu 16-Jan-25 18:47:38

It's very convenient to end a conversation with when you've said all there is to say & recieve what seems like a "signing off" text. Otherside you can go backwards & forwards with no-one wanting be the one to not reply!

I can only think that gen Z feel they need to be available to their friends' comms to the second they're posted, all their waking hours. That would be a recipe for poor mental health, for me personally.

FlitterMouse Thu 16-Jan-25 18:42:32

Wyllow3

I don't think it's a 'woke thing' - no one has "taught" genZ the "new"meaning, it's casual language evolving - the new meaning is a new one on me. I also cant see why its a "stopper". It can mean I suppose "fine and thank you" but also "fine lets continue".

I agree. It isn't woke just another "language" evolving.

I don't like emojis, especially when used on their own. I prefer real words but that's just me.

Occasionally, I catch Richard Osman's House of Games where they sometimes have an round where the title of something: book, film, TV show has to be depicted in emojis. I can never work it out.

Doodledog Thu 16-Jan-25 18:41:51

I understand why it seems that way, although I sometimes use it. If it's used after a message such as 'I'm waiting under the clock' it just means 'message received' and is fine.

If it is used after a conversation it does seem to say 'over and out' which could be perceived as a bit rude.

I don't think the British are very good at this sort of thing, are we? grin

Wyllow3 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:35:35

The urban dictionary confirms its now seen at least as ambiguous.

Wyllow3 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:31:32

I don't think it's a 'woke thing' - no one has "taught" genZ the "new"meaning, it's casual language evolving - the new meaning is a new one on me. I also cant see why its a "stopper". It can mean I suppose "fine and thank you" but also "fine lets continue".

Indigo8 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:22:32

eazybee

The fact that the poster's granddaughter confirmed that it is now aggressive says it all. Is the correct use of language and signs to be dictated by teenagers/young people?

I often check in with my GCs about modern usage; not because they are the arbiters but because they are taught to use language and symbols in a certain way at school.

I think what they are taught is dictated by school policy following decisions made, presumably, by older educators not teenagers.

Ziplok Thu 16-Jan-25 18:17:18

Sorry, middle finger, not index finger 😁, getting myself muddled there.

Ziplok Thu 16-Jan-25 18:16:37

I always thought it was the single index finger gesture that was rude. Never heard of the πŸ‘πŸΌ being rude, so will continue to use it where appropriate. I’m sure context is everything.

FlitterMouse Thu 16-Jan-25 18:09:45

This from last summer explains:

english.elpais.com/lifestyle/2024-08-26/the-emoji-revolution-and-how-the-thumbs-up-came-to-be-passive-aggressive-and-old-fashioned.html

Generation Z consider it passive aggressive, while older people believe it is used as a sign of affirmation and agreement.

… it has a new function and is used to stop a conversation,” … β€œWhen you use this emoji at the end of a message, it seems somewhat blunt, because it indicates that the conversation is over. That is why some people think that its use is passive aggressive.

… this is precisely what happened with the laughing emoji, which ended up having a sarcastic nuance; now it is the turn of the thumbs-up emoji.

You see that used on this platform a lot - laughing emojis as sarcasm.

I don’t use emojis as I find them unnecessary but I had friends who would often respond with a thumbs up. I don’t think I’d label it passive aggressive but it did definitely feel like the other person was putting an end to the exchange when sometimes I thought there was more to say.

merlotgran Thu 16-Jan-25 18:08:31

I shall carry on using it.

Saves a lot of unnecessary typing.

Mollygo Thu 16-Jan-25 18:08:03

Another I want to change the accepted meaning to suit me decision. 😴

eazybee Thu 16-Jan-25 18:08:00

The fact that the poster's granddaughter confirmed that it is now aggressive says it all. Is the correct use of language and signs to be dictated by teenagers/young people?

Babs03 Thu 16-Jan-25 18:05:26

In British sign language the thumbs up is used to denote agreement, positivity, and acceptance.

Babs03 Thu 16-Jan-25 17:56:02

Those people who don’t like it are free to stop using it but I will continue to use it as will many others. A storm in a teacup.

Gwyllt Thu 16-Jan-25 17:54:03

I think friends know you and know you are not being aggressive πŸ‘