6 Months On From The Election.....

Maybe we need a government that is doing things that will take years to come to fruition. Doesn’t Japan have a ministry for forward planning? We need to stop thinking of quick fixes for problems and look at things in the long term. Maybe that’s one of the problems of having fixed term governments that have to achieve things quickly.

Reeves is said to be backing a new application for the Rosebank oilfield, much to the chagrin of Milliband and others. The government (presumably at the behest of Milliband) is apparently going to prevent renewal of exploration applications so Lord knows how that will turn out. Meanwhile the head of GB Energy has said that it will take 20 years to provide the 1000 new jobs Starmer promised for Aberdeen, and my car and millions of others, as well as millions of homes, will continue to require fossil fuels for many years to come. What an unholy mess.

Freya5

Casdon

Other than an above inflation minimum wage rise and this do you mean mae13?
www.gov.uk/government/news/15-million-to-help-charities-get-spare-produce-to-those-in-need

Yes that's a positive, but along with National Insurance rise and other business costs, higher costs passed onto consumer, business will not take on employee if one leaves, they won't employ more people. Why don't you listen to businesses before putting this rise as a positive.
See what CBI have to say about this.

CBI is writing from the perspective of businesses Freya5, and would never support paying more to employees, that’s not what they are about. However not paying people a wage they can live on, and forcing them to rely on universal credit support and foodbanks is not the way forward.

Freya5

Casdon

Other than an above inflation minimum wage rise and this do you mean mae13?
www.gov.uk/government/news/15-million-to-help-charities-get-spare-produce-to-those-in-need

Yes that's a positive, but along with National Insurance rise and other business costs, higher costs passed onto consumer, business will not take on employee if one leaves, they won't employ more people. Why don't you listen to businesses before putting this rise as a positive.
See what CBI have to say about this.

At least Keir Starmer has never said ‘f**k business’ has he?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Labour?
Let’s hear it for Milliband … (stop booing at the back).

We are an island of coal, we have the North Sea full of gas and oil, we have an abundance of shale gas, we have Rolls Royce who are ready and waiting to produce small modular nuclear power stations. You have to be a special kind of stupid to end up with the world’s most expensive energy!

No worries, Reform will sort it. Or perhaps Elon could buy the UK?

Casdon

Other than an above inflation minimum wage rise and this do you mean mae13?
www.gov.uk/government/news/15-million-to-help-charities-get-spare-produce-to-those-in-need

Yes that's a positive, but along with National Insurance rise and other business costs, higher costs passed onto consumer, business will not take on employee if one leaves, they won't employ more people. Why don't you listen to businesses before putting this rise as a positive.
See what CBI have to say about this.

MayBee70

Am I happy about some of the things Labour have done so far? No. But I am angry that there seems to be very little publicity about the good things they have done given that the media is out to get them ( and also Labours PR machine leaves a lot to be desired). However, I think people have quickly forgotten the car crash of a government we’ve had for years because of the Conservative party fighting within itself. They were more concerned about staying in power than doing what was best for the country. I just watched a press conference that Johnson gave when countries like Italy were begging us to take covid seriously and Johnson was saying that, as far as he was concerned it was more important to protect the economy. That’s the sort of government we’ve had for 14 years and, thank goodness we’ve moved on. I’m also proud of the fact that we have one of the few governments that aren’t lurching towards a populist far right agenda.

Well said and I agree. I would vote Labour again, even though, in common with many, I don’t like some of their actions, nor how they were done. However, they have done a lot in 6 months and much of it seems to be positive, yet not known widely.

Am I happy about some of the things Labour have done so far? No. But I am angry that there seems to be very little publicity about the good things they have done given that the media is out to get them ( and also Labours PR machine leaves a lot to be desired). However, I think people have quickly forgotten the car crash of a government we’ve had for years because of the Conservative party fighting within itself. They were more concerned about staying in power than doing what was best for the country. I just watched a press conference that Johnson gave when countries like Italy were begging us to take covid seriously and Johnson was saying that, as far as he was concerned it was more important to protect the economy. That’s the sort of government we’ve had for 14 years and, thank goodness we’ve moved on. I’m also proud of the fact that we have one of the few governments that aren’t lurching towards a populist far right agenda.

True of course Casdon.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I just think Reform are in the ascendency Casdon. Before the election they were polling 14% so a massive surge in popularity. Not so Labour. That said I don’t think Reform can hold out for 4 more years.

What matters is always the number of seats won at the election for the next government. Nothing will really make a difference in the end unless your party wins enough seats to be in power, either alone or in coalition. After 14 years in opposition nobody knows that better than Labour supporters.

Probably MayBee bit like Labour at the GE! Very light on substance. People didn’t really care. The main thing was They Weren’t Tory. Anyway, they’re in for another four and a half years. Democracy at work. Let’s see what they do with this opportunity to reset.

They’re in the ascendancy because everyone is projecting onto them their ideas of what they think or want them to be, not knowing what, apart from being anti immigration, they actually are.

I just think Reform are in the ascendency Casdon. Before the election they were polling 14% so a massive surge in popularity. Not so Labour. That said I don’t think Reform can hold out for 4 more years.

You’ve lost me again FriedGreenTomatoes2. Why would Labour tank if they got 24%, and Reform wouldn’t if they got 25%? The result (if it was based on percentage of votes cast) would be no overall victory, but in fact it would depend on seats won, not % of the vote, as it always does. Your logic defeats me.

Breaking News:
Reform UK is leading Labour in a YouGov voting intention poll for the first time.

Figures put Reform UK on 25% of the vote – its joint-highest score to date – up from 23% on its previous poll on Jan 26-27.

Meanwhile, Labour is on 24% (down 3) and the Conservatives are on 21% (down 1).

The Lib Dems remain unchanged on 14% and the Greens stay the same on 9%.

Sadly I do think Reform might be peaking too soon and 4 years till the next GE is a long time. Labour got in because the electorate wanted to give the Tories a good kicking (deservedly so) and so Starmer hit the jackpot. If an election were to be held next month Labour would tank. We all know this. They are so unpopular! But hey, Starmer has 4 years to Build the Foundations (or whatever the newest 3 word buzzline is) or mess up completely. We have to wait and see really.

It was Centrica’s decision only because the government (Tory) refused to subsidise repairs.

They knew this would push Centrica into closing the storage facility. Managed decline - the Tories were masters at it!

It was Centrica’s decision.

Google is our friend:

Why was Rough gas storage closed?
First opened in 1985, it was closed by Centrica Storage Ltd in 2017 because of the need for costly maintenance, the UK government declining to subsidise repairs.

Was it the previous governments decision MayBee or Centrica’s? Genuine question.

Well, vote leave said our energy costs would come down if we voted for Brexit. So much for that.And the previous government getting rid of our gas storage facilities have caused problems with energy prices.

Labour?
Let’s hear it for Milliband … (stop booing at the back).

We are an island of coal, we have the North Sea full of gas and oil, we have an abundance of shale gas, we have Rolls Royce who are ready and waiting to produce small modular nuclear power stations. You have to be a special kind of stupid to end up with the world’s most expensive energy!

maddyone

I don’t suppose they care.

My local labour party branch was part of the local initiative to set one up in the first place, its an insult to say "we dont care!"

petra

That’s disgraceful. 6 months on and they haven’t fixed everything the tories ruined over the past 14 years.
Has anyone got a magic wand they could lend the Labour Party 🤷‍♀️

This.

How do you think this could have been fixed in this time Mae? It would take substantial rises in benefits to fix the ability to feed a family without food banks. I'll keep my subscriptions up until they are not needed anymore.

nanna8

Starmer would support that.

As a Human Rights Lawyer I very much doubt that!

maddyone

^if government attackers are allowed to get away with being more vocal^

Perhaps free speech should be outlawed. People shouldn’t be allowed to express their opinions.

The issue with “opinions” is that they are not “facts”

It would have been more accurate and factual to state “I don’t agree with anything this govt has done in its first 6 months” rather than claiming they are failing and have done zero.