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James Bulger

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Kandinsky Thu 13-Feb-25 07:46:53

32 years ago this weekend the most unthinkable crime took place.
I was a young mother myself at the time and this case still sickens me.
He looked like such a happy sweet little boy.
Continued love & strength to the parents & family of beautiful James xx

Redhead56 Thu 13-Feb-25 08:49:41

It’s always on my mind I was a young mum with a young son at the time.
We take a train frequently and it stops just yards from where James was before he was killed.
It is a constant reminder of how cruel some people can be and innocent lives are lost because of it.💐

Cossy Thu 13-Feb-25 08:50:01

Goodness, I remember this heinous crime as if it were yesterday. It was shocking, disturbing and utterly pointless

Barleyfields Thu 13-Feb-25 09:41:21

Yes so do I Cossy. It was truly shocking.

Indigo8 Thu 13-Feb-25 09:45:22

My youngest was the same age as James Bulger so it is particularly poignant as they are now 35 and they have three children.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Feb-25 09:52:44

I was 33 weeks pregnant, hormones all over the place, so dreadfully sad.

Barleyfields Thu 13-Feb-25 10:13:24

It was a stark reminder that if you let go of that little hand there could be someone there waiting to take it, and your precious child.

Kandinsky Thu 13-Feb-25 10:20:07

Most of us have been there haven’t we.
Those few moments when you lose sight of your child in the supermarket or playground. I certainly have.

Barleyfields Thu 13-Feb-25 10:30:59

Yes. Heart-stopping. M&S in my case. He was just behind a rail of clothes but I will never forget.

Esmay Thu 13-Feb-25 10:39:49

I've never forgotten the sweet face of that dear little boy .
RIP 🧸

Churchview Thu 13-Feb-25 11:07:41

Poor Jamie.

Yes, I know that feeling well of losing sight - the panic and horror is indescribable.

Allira Thu 13-Feb-25 11:49:37

We'll never forget that sweet little boy.
Thinking of Denise Bulger today.

Yes, we have all probably experienced the panic of realising our child is not right there next to us however careful we are.

TerriBull Thu 13-Feb-25 12:01:04

I was deeply affected, wish I hadn't read about it, I had a 3 year old and a 6/7 year old at the time. I felt horror and so devastated for Denise and her husband.

crazyH Thu 13-Feb-25 12:13:53

Very, very sad case. I hope Denise and Jamie’s Dad are coping ok. Time eases the pain, though it will never go away.

Franbern Thu 13-Feb-25 13:10:40

The press loved this story, and ensured that every possible grizzly details regarding any of the three children was there to be salivated over. Of course, this was the only country in Europe where the two boys would have been tried in open, adult court - not even tall enough to be able to see over the witness box.
What they did was horrible no doubt about it -but how sections of the public were up was just as bad. I can remember newspaper and tv photos of adults with their own children sitting on their shoulders chasing after the police van and battering it. Disgusting!!!

Sadly, only one of those two have been rehabilitated, the other has to remain incarcerated.

Iam64 Thu 13-Feb-25 13:45:06

One of the boys who murdered James responded well to the care in the secure unit. The other didn’t and is back Inside. Life licence means exactly that. Breach conditions and you return to custody.
Both boys had the kind of childhood experiences that could damage their minds and obviously did.
I share the views Franbern expressed about the trial, the press and the behaviour of some adults towards two children. This does not mean I, not repelled by what they did. Secure accommodation then adult prison, kept separately was the only course available

Wheniwasyourage Thu 13-Feb-25 14:41:24

So sad, and not something that anyone can easily forget. James (not Jamie, by the way - that was what some of the press, not his family, called him, I believe) will not be forgotten.

Grandmadinosaur Thu 13-Feb-25 14:52:57

I remembered about this crime too yesterday. We visited a place where we had also visited around the time this happened and it came back to me. I cannot comprehend how his poor mother and father dealt with it. My heart goes out to them and his siblings who have grown up not knowing a brother who was taken in the most appalling way imaginable.

RIP little James 💐

Allira Thu 13-Feb-25 14:58:00

What they did was horrible no doubt about it -but how sections of the public were up was just as bad.

No, it was not just as bad.

NonGrannyMoll Thu 13-Feb-25 15:04:25

It was horrendously shocking at the time because the perpetrators were only children themselves. And how far down that greasy pole our society has slid in 32 years, hasn't it? Knives, boots, baseball bats, your mum's kitchen scissors - any weapon is now par for the course with young thugs, it seems. Since the James Bulger case, we seem to have learned very little about how we bring up little boys. Still, I guess that's part & parcel of "child-driven learning". Sheesh.

Iam64 Thu 13-Feb-25 15:28:02

NonGrannyMoll - the boys who murdered James were from neglectful, abusive parenting.
Their needs for secure attachments, appropriate boundaries etc were not met.

escaped Thu 13-Feb-25 15:49:57

Poor little boy, I remember it well too. Tragic.

A good friend, and one of my most highly caring teachers, took the job of "tutor" to one of the boys in a local authority secure home here in the South West in the mid 90s. It was hugely challenging, to say the least, and he only told me about it later on when the child in question was long past 16 and had been moved on. I think someone said upthread, disturbed.

Iam64 Thu 13-Feb-25 16:53:22

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

escaped Thu 13-Feb-25 17:04:14

To be honest, I don't know which boy my colleague was responsible for. Professionally, he would never have said. But he shared with me that the programme of psychotherapy and education was intense.
The hardest part for the child to accept was the consistent, strict discipline.
Perhaps this was the other boy, I don't know.

mokryna Thu 13-Feb-25 18:42:47

Iam64

NonGrannyMoll - the boys who murdered James were from neglectful, abusive parenting.
Their needs for secure attachments, appropriate boundaries etc were not met.

Patrick Bulger Suffered an horrific death. However, those boys how ever savage they were, shouldn’t have been taken to an adult court. They were not mentally developed. I have never seen crowds baying for blood as those after the boys in court. The nation judge the child killers.
The two boys’ parents should have been charged with negligence.

In contrast 1994 Norway had two younger boys set upon a girl they were playing with. They were not put in prison and were not judged.