International Women's Day Saturday 8 March

I was talking about this to my sister and bro in law last night. Basically, men don’t need their own special day! I am afraid it is still the case that every day is ‘men’s day!

Women have had a perpetual struggle in all sorts of ways with men. The reason being that men are physically stronger and tend to be more aggressive.
Thankfully most men don't use their physical strength to control women but there are too many who do.
On international women's day we should remember all those women who have suffered for the freedom of women and all those poor women who have been killed by men.

Most women are abused/raped or killed by men they know, men they once loved and trusted. So many tragic cases are to do with ex boyfriends or husbands, as with the crossbow killer who was an ex of one of the young women killed. And our legal system is an ass, all too often violent men are released from prison without the women they once brutalised being protected by the law, and so killed almost as soon as the perp walks free. Also safe houses and refuges are so far and few between that women being abused have nowhere to go.
Stranger danger is also an ever present fear for most women, even at my age I am nervous about coming home alone at night, keeping my house keys grasped firmly in one hand.
Of course the majority of men are not like this but with role models like the Tate brothers and Trump and his cronies am afraid misogyny is far from a thing of the past.

And killed by their son’s Babs 1 in 10 of the number quoted by the OP in the last 15 years

I found it somewhat depressing to read that the role of women living with a male partner has not changed as much as it should have done. Women still take on most of the chores including the cognitive load of things like maintaining stocks of food and remembering appointments for children.
I know there are numerous exceptions to this and I am sure that most men do more than their fathers

Sadly I think you are right Indigo8.
Both my DDs tend to still do most of the household jobs but childcare is split between them which is a step forward. It's still the case that if a child is ill at school it is the mother they call first.
I was glad to hear that in the UK there are more female doctors than male.

There is still a way to go before we are equal with men. Until all men know that assaulting a woman/girl is not acceptable then abuse will carry on.

International women's day came about partly by the mother's strike in Russia asking for bread. It brought about the start of what eventually became the Russian Revolution.

Women have power they don't utilise enough!

Interestingly the Russian press is boasting of the improvement to lifting of US tariffs will bring to Putin's Russia.

The 4th item listed is that it would make cosmetics cheaper for the women of Russia! What a superficial world women seem to inhabit these days...

Jaxjacky

And killed by their son’s Babs 1 in 10 of the number quoted by the OP in the last 15 years

Yes that is very true. Not to mention mothers abused physically and mentally for years.

There is a lot said about absent fathers. The role of the 'present' father, and his influence on sons, also needs scrutinising.

I think it probably has been, absent fathers statistically tend to be terrible for boys. For those who are unlucky enough to experience fathers who commit domestic abuse, the risk of those boys doing the same is increased, for girls of domestic abusers the risks are different.

I read an article awhile back which said that statistics showed that the traditional view that children were always better off if they lived with both parents was no longer necessarily true.

The conclusion was that while two supportive parents were better than one parent; an unpleasant, uncaring and/or violent father or step father was more damaging for children than an absent father.

Oh step fathers raise the risk of something bad happening by a ridiculous percentage.

I tend to think that many factors can contribute to misogyny, a dysfunctional family background with male role models who are misogynistic giving rise to a culture of misogyny, fuelled by the Tate brothers or vids on the internet showing violence/rape being perpetrated against women.
Other factors are obvs as significant, including toxic masculine workplaces where being one of the crowd means denigrating women and turning a blind eye to colleagues who over step the mark with female colleagues.

It has to be men who make the change. Women can only do so much. Decent men need to step up and tell misogynists that they are out of line.
Misogynists need the approval of other men. Respect for others starts in the home and if boys see their father's being respectful to women then they will most likely follow suit.

I have three older grandsons and they think the Tates are idiots. They are very respectful to their mothers and to me but that's the way they were brought up.

International Women's Day will come and go and we'll still have men with a Master of the House mentality demanding dinner on the table when they click their fingers.
And we'll still have women being knocked about if dinner is 5 minutes late, if the favourite football team has lost a match or if Neanderthal Man has simply had a "bad day" at work.

AGAA4

It has to be men who make the change. Women can only do so much. Decent men need to step up and tell misogynists that they are out of line.
Misogynists need the approval of other men. Respect for others starts in the home and if boys see their father's being respectful to women then they will most likely follow suit.

I have three older grandsons and they think the Tates are idiots. They are very respectful to their mothers and to me but that's the way they were brought up.

Totally agree.

mae13

International Women's Day will come and go and we'll still have men with a Master of the House mentality demanding dinner on the table when they click their fingers.
And we'll still have women being knocked about if dinner is 5 minutes late, if the favourite football team has lost a match or if Neanderthal Man has simply had a "bad day" at work.

Sadly this is true. And for this reason there has to be far more help available for women trying to escape. People often ask why women don’t just leave, but if these women don’t have anywhere to go, and may have children as well, they often feel trapped.
Also unless these abusive males are dealt with swiftly and effectively by our justice system they will just go looking for the woman who has escaped and make sure she is unable to ever do it again. Local police also have to be quick in responding to calls for help.

One of my irritations (🥴) is the often repeated claim that feminism has gone too far, that’s why the Tate brothers have such a strong following

If they leave they are frequently killed.

I frequently hear the 'feminism has gone too far' comments from women which is even more astonishing to me.

Women saying things like, 'Of course men are afraid to open doors for women now without being criticised - feminism has gone too far'. Or, 'My daughter in law expects my son to cook a meal when he comes home from work' despite the fact that the daughter in law also works AND did the school run on the way home.

With half the population of the world female, and a mere fraction actually being educated and having a job/career, or even permitted to leave the house unaccompanied, I think feminism hasn’t gone anywhere near far enough. Not even here in a so called civilised country, where numbers of women abused and killed or coerced and controlled is way too high.

If you look up feminism on Youtube some feminist stuff comes up but also a load of anti-feminist gunk included some idiot woman apologising for having been a feminist as she has now seen the light.

Feminists are often accused of being man haters but their dislike of men is nothing compared to tsunami of hatred directed towards women that emanates from the manosphere.

Reform's Rupert Lowe has been reported to the police by his own party chairman. The party received complaints from two female employees about "serious bullying" in Mr Lowe's office.

They reveal the complaints were made to Parliamentary authorities, and say they received evidence of workplace bullying.

These included "evidence of derogatory and discriminatory remarks made about women, including reference to a perceived disability."